Let's rewind

[Low Mountains Drifter]

It's August of 2015, WVU fans are excited and optimistic entering the season. People are saying we now have Holgorsen's team in place and have talent and depth like we haven't seen in years. Those who question that are attacked as naysayers who have no clue.

The defense, it was said, will be excellent because it has experience backed with many good young players ready to contribute at a high level. Some even tout us as one of the best defenses in the country, maybe top 5, certainly top 25. Midway through the season, after losing one starter (albeit probably the best one), the defense is in complete disarray.

Our best corner (who may now be out too) is not the "lock down corner" who people were saying was so good the only worry was for next year because he might go to the NFL; it's Chestnut (a Stewart recruit). Worley has been exposed. When in response to him being toasted we went to the subs (Douglas and Rumpf) it looked even worse. When the other corner got dinged we then tried Kyeremeh and he too struggled mightily. Suddenly, we get told depth is a huge issue at corner because we have so little 5 years in..

With Joseph out, Harper and Tyler have struggled and we find depth at safety is lacking as well. At linebacker Muldrow, Preston and Benton have looked at best shaky and (ironically, since they were all Stewart recruits) only the good fortune that the starters have been able to play the bulk of the minutes has kept that unit from being a major weakness as well. Now we're playing Bruce (another Stewart recruit) at DE because we don't have anyone recruited by Holgorsen who can put on an effective rush.

The offensive line has looked shaky and losing the LT managed to further weaken 2 positions. The running backs are Smallwood who has excelled, Shell who hasn't and.....? WR where we were "loaded" has not only caused us to burn a QB's redshirt but shown he might be the best or second best on the squad.

We won't mention QB out of respect for the weak stomached.

That people STILL claim this is a more talented and deeper team than what Holgorsen inherited is hilarious. It's impossible to believe anyone who once drove by a football field actually believes that.

 

[GoWVU]

Certainly would be interesting to see what a 2016 Holgorsen team looks like without the last of Stewart's bequeathed starters.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

It's August of 2015, WVU fans are excited and optimistic entering the season. People are saying we now have Holgorsen's team in place and have talent and depth like we haven't seen in years. Those who question that are attacked as naysayers who have no clue.

The defense, it was said, will be excellent because it has experience backed with many good young players ready to contribute at a high level. Some even tout us as one of the best defenses in the country, maybe top 5, certainly top 25. Midway through the season, after losing one starter (albeit probably the best one), the defense is in complete disarray.

Our best corner (who may now be out too) is not the "lock down corner" who people were saying was so good the only worry was for next year because he might go to the NFL; it's Chestnut (a Stewart recruit). Worley has been exposed. When in response to him being toasted we went to the subs (Douglas and Rumpf) it looked even worse. When the other corner got dinged we then tried Kyeremeh and he too struggled mightily. Suddenly, we get told depth is a huge issue at corner because we have so little 5 years in..

With Joseph out, Harper and Tyler have struggled and we find depth at safety is lacking as well. At linebacker Muldrow, Preston and Benton have looked at best shaky and (ironically, since they were all Stewart recruits) only the good fortune that the starters have been able to play the bulk of the minutes has kept that unit from being a major weakness as well. Now we're playing Bruce (another Stewart recruit) at DE because we don't have anyone recruited by Holgorsen who can put on an effective rush.

The offensive line has looked shaky and losing the LT managed to further weaken 2 positions. The running backs are Smallwood who has excelled, Shell who hasn't and.....? WR where we were "loaded" has not only caused us to burn a QB's redshirt but shown he might be the best or second best on the squad.

We won't mention QB out of respect for the weak stomached.

That people STILL claim this is a more talented and deeper team than what Holgorsen inherited is hilarious. It's impossible to believe anyone who once drove by a football field actually believes that.

It's pretty obvious this all about Stewart to you. If you make Dana look bad, Stewart gets to look better.

Every post, like clockwork.

So, how is Hank doing? Tell him Darth said hello.

 

[Boomboom521]

Certainly would be interesting to see what a 2016 Holgorsen team looks like without the last of Stewart's bequeathed starters.

Was Stewart a better recruiter? Better coach? Were you happy with Stewart?

 

[GoWVU]

Were you happy with Stewart?

Of course not, I know a bad hire when I see one. I wished Bill no ill will, but those of us with perspective knew he was a hastily-chosen placeholder.

However, it's also equally true that the original poster has a good point in the bigger picture of recruiting and the roster.

 

[GetYaNumbersUp]

You write a novel every time you post. Try making your thoughts a little more concise, nobody is trying to read all that.

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

Was Stewart a better recruiter? Better coach? Were you happy with Stewart?

Yes, Yes, No.

And anyone who wasn't happy with Stewart should be hugely unhappy with where we are now.

I get that a few of you have tingly feelings for Dana and think the longer he stays the better your chances, but those of us who like football are fed up.

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

Oh come on. When people make short concise declarations that Dana is a failure, the fangirls deny it and say explain how. When it is explained, people complain it's too much detail.

Can't have it both ways.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

Oh come on. When people make short concise declarations that Dana is a failure, the fangirls deny it and say explain how. When it is explained, people complain it's too much detail.

Can't have it both ways.

So Hank is a man without a country these days, huh? Looks like he found someone to carry his water.

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

Is that intended to make sense? If so, it's a failure.

 

[TruWVblu]

It's pretty obvious this all about Stewart to you. If you make Dana look bad, Stewart gets to look better.

Every post, like clockwork.

So, how is Hank doing? Tell him Darth said hello.

That goes both ways. Just look at some of Punisheers posts. All he does is bash Stewart as if Holgorsen's success or failure it all tied to him in some way. He and others still blame Stewart for the current state of our program. Again, not disagreeing with you, just pointing out that it is the same on the other side as well.

 

[VaultHunter]

I must have missed all these high expectations from people all over college football for WVU.

I saw where WVU was picked to finish 4-6 on most sites articles ecr but I missed the analysis you gave.

Now if you want to talk about message board posters high expectations that cool but does that really matter in the grand scheme of things?

Let's rewind some more shall we...

WVU was not picked in the preseason top 25 anywhere. WVU was picked to finish in the middle of the Big12 by coaches and the media.

Baylor, TCU and Oklahoma were all top ten preseason picks and picked as Big12 championship candidates. WVU lost to those three. Oklahoma State was not but lets not act like WVU didn't show in that game that it was just as good as Oklahoma State minus two costly turnovers.

So...WVU has lost 3 games to teams expected to do better than WVU. WVU lost a game it could have won against a top 25 team who was picked to finish ahead of WVU.

So it sounds like WVU is not living up to your expectations and your very upset they let you down. And every day you and another guy start a thread saying Dana should be fired for losing to 4 teams everybody expected to do better than WVU. But you expected better and didn't expect those 4 losses.

Do you see the problem? There is a repeat pattern here

 

[31Herd55]

Please explain how most site articles could pick them to finish 4-6 (only 10 games out of a 12-game schedule) or does this only apply to the # of wins?. Can't be a serious prediction about only 4 TOTAL wins.

But, good, detailed analysis by Low pointing out the # of Stewart recruits that are carrying the load on defense.

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

Again for the slow folks.

Saying a team met your low expectations is not a defense in the 5th season.

The fact this coach causes people to have low expectations does not mean all he has to is perform as poorly as expected.

If that foolish idea had merit we should just give him a lifetime contract because as expectations continue to plummet he will always meet them.

 

[3xWVUenginEER]

Every post, like clockwork.
So, how is Hank doing? Tell him Darth said hello.

........

So Hank is a man without a country these days, huh? Looks like he found someone to carry his water.

That is funny. I don't care who you are.

 

[Pushingtin]

I must have missed all these high expectations from people all over college football for WVU.

I saw where WVU was picked to finish 4-6 on most sites articles ecr but I missed the analysis you gave.

Now if you want to talk about message board posters high expectations that cool but does that really matter in the grand scheme of things?

Let's rewind some more shall we...

WVU was not picked in the preseason top 25 anywhere. WVU was picked to finish in the middle of the Big12 by coaches and the media.

Baylor, TCU and Oklahoma were all top ten preseason picks and picked as Big12 championship candidates. WVU lost to those three. Oklahoma State was not but lets not act like WVU didn't show in that game that it was just as good as Oklahoma State minus two costly turnovers.

So...WVU has lost 3 games to teams expected to do better than WVU. WVU lost a game it could have won against a top 25 team who was picked to finish ahead of WVU.

So it sounds like WVU is not living up to your expectations and your very upset they let you down. And every day you and another guy start a thread saying Dana should be fired for losing to 4 teams everybody expected to do better than WVU. But you expected better and didn't expect those 4 losses.

Do you see the problem? There is a repeat pattern here

then yes you did miss it....but not that it surprises me because any of you nitwits that still support Dana obviously are clueless when it comes to college football and I'm almost sure rarely watch the game. If you watched the preseason networks when it came to big 12 coverage the only two sure things were Baylor and TCU. Many had us as the surprise success due to all the returning players on defense and an offensive guru on the other side of the ball.
Here is a little tidbit for ya about our Ok St game.....we were the favorite....