Its really easy to laugh at some of you

[VaultHunter]

In 5 season Rich Rod was 39-22 at WVU

In 5 seasons Dana is 31-26 at WVU

Dana's record has 3 seasons of BIG 12 schedules included!

Go ahead spin that we'll wait....

 

[Vernon]

In 5 season Rich Rod was 39-22 at WVU

In 5 seasons Dana is 31-26 at WVU

Dana's record has 3 seasons of BIG 12 schedules included!

Go ahead spin that we'll wait....

Were you trying to make a point?

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

In years 2-5, Rodriguez was 36-14 and won a BCS bowl. Trends matter and the current one is no laughing matter.

In years 2-5, Dana is 21-23. 11-19 in conference play.

 

[MountaineerWV]

In 5 season Rich Rod was 39-22 at WVU

In 5 seasons Dana is 31-26 at WVU

Dana's record has 3 seasons of BIG 12 schedules included!

Go ahead spin that we'll wait....

What is Dana's NON-BIG EAST record? He is a downward trend. No other way of putting it. He peaked during his first year. Justify it however you want, but people lose their jobs because they don't RISE UP to the challenge. If you strive for 7-5 or 6-6 seasons and say "but it's big boy football now", then fine. But don't wait for an apology from me for not accepting that as the goal for this football program.

 

[KeatonsCorner]

Rich's winning percentage since moving to the P5


54%

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

And that provides support for the thesis Dana is a good coach in what way?

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

Dana has only managed 5-3 against teams that WERE part of the BE. That horrible league where Rodriguez's and Stewart's BETTER records proved nothing.

Funny how that works in the minds of some to make Dana better.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

The eyeball test: WVU was a better team, no matter the competition, when Rich was the coach. Even with Stewart, WVU was at least equal to what Dana has done.
Rich is doing well at Arizona. Michigan was a disaster for a decade, and Rich was only there 3 seasons so maybe Ann Arbor deserves some of the blame?
I don't care who is coaching my alma mater, as long as he has them in contention for the conference title, which Rich and Bill did and which Dana has not.

M ighty defense throttled Georgia Southern, 44-0

O utstanding defense obliterated Liberty, 41-17

U nilaterally decimated Maryland, 45-6, on defense and offense

N oxious offense & special teams against Oklahoma, 44-24

T urnovers lose to Oklahoma State, 33-26 in OT despite impressive comeback from 15-point deficit.

A wesome Baylor too much, 62-38.

I nch by TCU

N ip Texas Tech

E scape Texas

E rectile dysfunction Kansas

R oll past Iowa State

S lip past Kansas State

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

Michigan was NOT a disaster when he got there let alone for a decade before he got there.

2007--9-4 beat UF in bowl.

Prior decade: 93-32, 3 B10 titles, 4 BCS bowls

 

[Orlaco]

In 5 season Rich Rod was 39-22 at WVU

In 5 seasons Dana is 31-26 at WVU

Dana's record has 3 seasons of BIG 12 schedules included!

Go ahead spin that we'll wait....

I noticed you're posting a lot less often.... ...and when you do you're very defensive (excusing losses).

It's pretty much the only upside of our current losing streak.

 

[GoWVU]

Rich's winning percentage since moving to the P5


54%

Holgorsen's at WVU = 54.4%

The board's Hypocrite-in-Chief strikes again...

 

[dolemitebmf]

In 5 season Rich Rod was 39-22 at WVU

In 5 seasons Dana is 31-26 at WVU

Dana's record has 3 seasons of BIG 12 schedules included!

Go ahead spin that we'll wait....

You forgot the guy between those two, who was 28-12. Go ahead and spin that we'll wait...

 

[mountaineers8893]

28-12 - Big East Schedule, no BCS bowl apperances. However, had he been given one more year, the 10-3 season Dana gets credit for statistically very well could have been another shared or outright BEast title for Stew. Stew needed that BCS bowl appearance, and had bad luck in the tie-breakers. Dana has done a good job at not letting it become a trainwreck. We knew what we were in for with this stretch of schedule. Stay tuned. Good football yet to come. RR, Stew, and Dana have all done their jobs to a fairly satisfactory degree, we just need a big win, and to win the ones we're supposed to, and we'll be 7-5 or 8-4 headed into a bowl. No need to hit the panic button, regardless of what TCU does. Next season however, has to be THE SEASON we get to 9 wins in this conference. Every year that goes by is money WVU doesn't have to pay in a buyout situation. If you dont think that matters, I think you're wrong. As time goes on, every year we don't make that jump from mediocrity, is another year closer to starting over.

 

[dolemitebmf]

28-12 - Big East Schedule, no BCS bowl apperances. However, had he been given one more year, the 10-3 season Dana gets credit for statistically very well could have been another shared or outright BEast title for Stew. Stew needed that BCS bowl appearance, and had bad luck in the tie-breakers. Dana has done a good job at not letting it become a trainwreck. We knew what we were in for with this stretch of schedule. Stay tuned. Good football yet to come. RR, Stew, and Dana have all done their jobs to a fairly satisfactory degree, we just need a big win, and to win the ones we're supposed to, and we'll be 7-5 or 8-4 headed into a bowl. No need to hit the panic button, regardless of what TCU does. Next season however, has to be THE SEASON we get to 9 wins in this conference. Every year that goes by is money WVU doesn't have to pay in a buyout situation. If you dont think that matters, I think you're wrong. As time goes on, every year we don't make that jump from mediocrity, is another year closer to starting over.

Dana HAS made it a trainwreck...

 

[Charleston Mountie]

28-12 - Big East Schedule, no BCS bowl apperances. However, had he been given one more year, the 10-3 season Dana gets credit for statistically very well could have been another shared or outright BEast title for Stew. Stew needed that BCS bowl appearance, and had bad luck in the tie-breakers. Dana has done a good job at not letting it become a trainwreck. We knew what we were in for with this stretch of schedule. Stay tuned. Good football yet to come. RR, Stew, and Dana have all done their jobs to a fairly satisfactory degree, we just need a big win, and to win the ones we're supposed to, and we'll be 7-5 or 8-4 headed into a bowl. No need to hit the panic button, regardless of what TCU does. Next season however, has to be THE SEASON we get to 9 wins in this conference. Every year that goes by is money WVU doesn't have to pay in a buyout situation. If you dont think that matters, I think you're wrong. As time goes on, every year we don't make that jump from mediocrity, is another year closer to starting over.[/QUOTE

Using that logic, then Stewart losses the claim on the Oklahoma victory. Which way do you want to spin it?

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

28-12 - Big East Schedule, no BCS bowl apperances. However, had he been given one more year, the 10-3 season Dana gets credit for statistically very well could have been another shared or outright BEast title for Stew. Stew needed that BCS bowl appearance, and had bad luck in the tie-breakers. Dana has done a good job at not letting it become a trainwreck. We knew what we were in for with this stretch of schedule. Stay tuned. Good football yet to come. RR, Stew, and Dana have all done their jobs to a fairly satisfactory degree, we just need a big win, and to win the ones we're supposed to, and we'll be 7-5 or 8-4 headed into a bowl. No need to hit the panic button, regardless of what TCU does. Next season however, has to be THE SEASON we get to 9 wins in this conference. Every year that goes by is money WVU doesn't have to pay in a buyout situation. If you dont think that matters, I think you're wrong. As time goes on, every year we don't make that jump from mediocrity, is another year closer to starting over.

I beg to differ. Stew's inflexibility in making changes where necessary (Mullen at OC) was what caused his downfall and it was rightfully so in my opinion. The season before that WVU had a defense that averaged under 13 points given up per game yet still finished 9-3 and looked like beaten dogs against a so-so NC State team. This team had the same offensive weapons as the Orange Bowl team. It was obvious the defensive performance was wasted by an inept offense and he refused to even consider a change from the OC that had 3 consecutive years of progressively worsening performances.

 

[dolemitebmf]

I beg to differ. Stew's inflexibility in making changes where necessary (Mullen at OC) was what caused his downfall and it was rightfully so in my opinion. The season before that WVU had a defense that averaged under 13 points given up per game yet still finished 9-3 and looked like beaten dogs against a so-so NC State team. This team had the same offensive weapons as the Orange Bowl team. It was obvious the defensive performance was wasted by an inept offense and he refused to even consider a change from the OC that had 3 consecutive years of progressively worsening performances.

I wish that Dana would consider a change at Offensive Coordinator...

 

[KeatonsCorner]

In the time it took for me to read this thread, Jeff Casteal's defense gave up another TD to Washington State



lol!

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

Let me get this straight. Stewart made a grievous error in sticking with an OC for 3 years when the offense was stagnating, but it would be a mistake to make a change now after 5 years?

Hmmm, that almost seems inconsistent.

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

Let me get this straight. Stewart made a grievous error in sticking with an OC for 3 years when the offense was stagnating, but it would be a mistake to make a change now after 5 years?

Hmmm, that almost seems inconsistent.

You are reading something into my post that isn't there. It's not black and white and any post that is not praising Dana or cursing his existence does not equate to the poster being on the opposite side. I simply refuted the assertion by the poster in quotes that Stew may have had the same 10-3 season with a 70-33 Orange Bowl that Dana had by noting that Stew refused to address the previous season's deficiencies. I am not in Dana's corner. I believe that until the season is over, its difficult to take a hard stance on one side of the fire/keep Dana debate. Currently I am leaning toward the fire Dana camp. That being said, unless WVU falls completely apart this season, I would have to factor in the cost of the buyout as well as the quality of candidates available in whether it would be a wise decision to release Dana at this time. I think that Dana's resume until this point raises concerns as to weather WVU can compete for a Big XII title under his watch. But just hiring someone on the merit of "he's not Dana" isn't a wise move either, especially considering at least USC, Maryland, and South Carolina will be looking for coaches this off season.

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

For future reference, use whether. Other than that, your post is reasonable but I pointed out in another thread the money argument is not compelling when you look at the big picture.

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

For future reference, use whether. Other than that, your post is reasonable but I pointed out in another thread the money argument is not compelling when you look at the big picture.

I caught that after the fact and just after editing the post noted your correction.

 

[WVex-pat in GA]

Since 1960 WVU has hired only one football coach with previous D1/FBS head coaching experience.

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

Was a pretty damn good choice too.

 

[Charleston Mountie]

28-12 - Big East Schedule, no BCS bowl apperances. However, had he been given one more year, the 10-3 season Dana gets credit for statistically very well could have been another shared or outright BEast title for Stew. Stew needed that BCS bowl appearance, and had bad luck in the tie-breakers. Dana has done a good job at not letting it become a trainwreck. We knew what we were in for with this stretch of schedule. Stay tuned. Good football yet to come. RR, Stew, and Dana have all done their jobs to a fairly satisfactory degree, we just need a big win, and to win the ones we're supposed to, and we'll be 7-5 or 8-4 headed into a bowl. No need to hit the panic button, regardless of what TCU does. Next season however, has to be THE SEASON we get to 9 wins in this conference. Every year that goes by is money WVU doesn't have to pay in a buyout situation. If you dont think that matters, I think you're wrong. As time goes on, every year we don't make that jump from mediocrity, is another year closer to starting over.

Well, using that logic Bill Stewart would have to give up the claim to beating Oklahoma in the bowl game. You pick which way you want to spin it, because you can't have both and be consistent.