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The Capital Classic will not be played next season.

The annual men’s basketball showdown between West Virginia and Marshall at the Charleston Civic Center will not be on the 2016-17 schedule, according to sources at both WVU and Marshall who asked not to be named. There are no games scheduled between the state’s only Division I programs, although the schools could resume discussions about renewing the series at a later date.

“I have not been advised to hold any dates at this point,” said John Robertson, general manager of the Civic Center.

The schools have renewed the series yearly since Feb. 20, 1978. The game was played solely in Morgantown until Jan. 2, 1980, when WVU won a 63-62 overtime game in Charleston.

WVU never played in Marshall’s old Memorial Field House, but the series was played on an alternating-campus basis when Cam Henderson Center was finished in the early 1980s. That continued through December 1990, with one rotation through Charleston thrown in.

The series went to the Civic Center full time in January 1992, with the game last month representing the 25th consecutive visit to the capital city. The game grew into the Capital Classic, complete with a title sponsor.

At last one state senator hopes to keep the series going with some legislative muscle.

Sen. Michael Woelfel, D-Cabell -- who said he had heard that the series was “on life support” -- plans to introduce a bill in the upcoming legislative session that would mandate a WVU-Marshall men’s basketball game.

Woelfel, a Marshall undergraduate with a WVU law degree, said the game promotes good will among state residents and generates extra revenue for both schools.

The game has consistently drawn 10,000 to 12,000 fans, the latter number nearing the building’s 12,337-seat capacity for basketball. Last month’s installment drew 11,748 fans on a Thursday night the week before Christmas WVU played one other game at the Civic Center this season, against James Madison. The listed attendance was 8,101.

Marshall Athletic Director Mike Hamrick says his school generally makes $150,000 to $175,000 on the game, depending on ticket sales. That does not include money from IMG College, which has a media and advertising contract with both schools.

WVU Athletic Director Shane Lyons provided a noncommittal statement Wednesday afternoon.“While we recognize there are fans who want to see the game return, our focus right now is on the Oklahoma State game this Saturday at 1 p.m. in the Coliseum, and the remaining Big 12 schedule in the coming months,” Lyons said. “Our men’s basketball team is 13-1 and ranked as high as No. 15 nationally. Our basketball staff is concentrating on winning a Big 12 championship.”WVU owns a 33-11 lead in the series, 11-1 in Morgantown, 0-5 in Huntington and 22-5 in Charleston.

The game at the Civic Center was played in January or February — coinciding with the legislative session — 20 of 21 years before being moved to December for the last three.The Mountaineers have won the last five and nine of the last 10. That includes the latest contest, WVU’s easy 86-68 win last month. There have been close games, some going to overtime, and there have been major upsets — in 2005 and 2006, Marshall teams with losing records knocked off WVU teams ranked in the Top 25.

After the December 2014 game, new Marshall coach Dan D’Antoni challenged WVU and Huggins to consider playing the game twice a season, once at Charleston and the other on alternating campuses. To not do so would mean the Mountaineers are “afraid” of the Herd, D’Antoni said.Huggins mocked that statement at length on MetroNews’ Statewide Sportsline, suggesting his team didn’t gain from playing Marshall even once. D’Antoni offered a clarification after the most recent game.“When I said they were afraid of us, I was talking about the institutions more, not him personally,” D’Antoni said of Huggins. “It’s like they’re afraid that we might win and then it would take some of their thunder.“I think we need to get rid of that notion. That’s foolish. That’s looking down on Marshall.”The drafted bill, a simple document of two sentences, would leave the details to the schools: “During every school year, the men’s basketball team of West Virginia University and Marshall University shall play at least one regular-season basketball game against each other. The venue, date, and all other pertinent details of the basketball game shall be determined jointly by the universities.”

The bill will be formally submitted when the session begins next week, Woelfel said. “I’ve had a lot of positive feedback from other senators from around the state,” he said. He acknowledged there are more pressing issues the Legislature must address, but he pointed out in a press release that Kentucky and other state legislatures have passed similar mandates on getting rival schools together in sporting events.At the least, Woelfel said he wants to at least bring some discussion about preserving one of the state’s most talked-about sporting events.“Drive through those campuses, and you see the millions of dollars the citizens, the taxpayers have invested in the two universities,” he said. “The game really belongs to the students and it belongs to the taxpayers, the citizens of the state.“I think folks enjoy tuning in, whether they want to see Marshall get hammered again or vice versa, or just enjoy a game between the two premier universities in the state.”
 
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"Sen. Michael Woelfel, D-Cabell -- who said he had heard that the series was “on life support” -- plans to introduce a bill in the upcoming legislative session that would mandate a WVU-Marshall men’s basketball game.

Woelfel, a Marshall undergraduate with a WVU law degree, said the game promotes good will among state residents and generates extra revenue for both schools."




First --- Sen. Michael Woelfel should be impeached. With the myriad problems facing this state, for any state representative to spend even a minute working on football or basketball scheduling for/with WVU or Marshall should be grounds for impeachment. And then by introducing a bill, he is more or less forcing all of the rest of the state representatives to wasted time on it as well.

Unemployment
Decreasing population
Poverty
Meth and Heroin epidemics
Last or next to last consistently in education and nearly every economic category
Lack of new job/business development

The guy should be impeached.




As far as "generating goodwill" ... that's laughable. He should be impeached just for being an idiot.
 
I myself wouldn't necessarily assume the series is dead and buried; though, like most others around here, I hope that's the case. Seems to me if Woelfel and his pals press the right (or wrong) political buttons, this game could fairly easily be reinserted into the schedules of both teams (and the CCC).
 
"Sen. Michael Woelfel, D-Cabell -- who said he had heard that the series was “on life support” -- plans to introduce a bill in the upcoming legislative session that would mandate a WVU-Marshall men’s basketball game.

Woelfel, a Marshall undergraduate with a WVU law degree, said the game promotes good will among state residents and generates extra revenue for both schools."




First --- Sen. Michael Woelfel should be impeached. With the myriad problems facing this state, for any state representative to spend even a minute working on football or basketball scheduling for/with WVU or Marshall should be grounds for impeachment. And then by introducing a bill, he is more or less forcing all of the rest of the state representatives to wasted time on it as well.

Unemployment
Decreasing population
Poverty
Meth and Heroin epidemics
Last or next to last consistently in education and nearly every economic category
Lack of new job/business development

The guy should be impeached.




As far as "generating goodwill" ... that's laughable. He should be impeached just for being an idiot.

Agree.....and regrettably, I voted for the bastard.
 
http://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/20160106/wvu-marshall-basketball-game-off-for-next-season

The Capital Classic will not be played next season.

The annual men’s basketball showdown between West Virginia and Marshall at the Charleston Civic Center will not be on the 2016-17 schedule, according to sources at both WVU and Marshall who asked not to be named. There are no games scheduled between the state’s only Division I programs, although the schools could resume discussions about renewing the series at a later date.

“I have not been advised to hold any dates at this point,” said John Robertson, general manager of the Civic Center.

The schools have renewed the series yearly since Feb. 20, 1978. The game was played solely in Morgantown until Jan. 2, 1980, when WVU won a 63-62 overtime game in Charleston.

WVU never played in Marshall’s old Memorial Field House, but the series was played on an alternating-campus basis when Cam Henderson Center was finished in the early 1980s. That continued through December 1990, with one rotation through Charleston thrown in.

The series went to the Civic Center full time in January 1992, with the game last month representing the 25th consecutive visit to the capital city. The game grew into the Capital Classic, complete with a title sponsor.

At last one state senator hopes to keep the series going with some legislative muscle.

Sen. Michael Woelfel, D-Cabell -- who said he had heard that the series was “on life support” -- plans to introduce a bill in the upcoming legislative session that would mandate a WVU-Marshall men’s basketball game.

Woelfel, a Marshall undergraduate with a WVU law degree, said the game promotes good will among state residents and generates extra revenue for both schools.

The game has consistently drawn 10,000 to 12,000 fans, the latter number nearing the building’s 12,337-seat capacity for basketball. Last month’s installment drew 11,748 fans on a Thursday night the week before Christmas WVU played one other game at the Civic Center this season, against James Madison. The listed attendance was 8,101.

Marshall Athletic Director Mike Hamrick says his school generally makes $150,000 to $175,000 on the game, depending on ticket sales. That does not include money from IMG College, which has a media and advertising contract with both schools.

WVU Athletic Director Shane Lyons provided a noncommittal statement Wednesday afternoon.“While we recognize there are fans who want to see the game return, our focus right now is on the Oklahoma State game this Saturday at 1 p.m. in the Coliseum, and the remaining Big 12 schedule in the coming months,” Lyons said. “Our men’s basketball team is 13-1 and ranked as high as No. 15 nationally. Our basketball staff is concentrating on winning a Big 12 championship.”WVU owns a 33-11 lead in the series, 11-1 in Morgantown, 0-5 in Huntington and 22-5 in Charleston.

The game at the Civic Center was played in January or February — coinciding with the legislative session — 20 of 21 years before being moved to December for the last three.The Mountaineers have won the last five and nine of the last 10. That includes the latest contest, WVU’s easy 86-68 win last month. There have been close games, some going to overtime, and there have been major upsets — in 2005 and 2006, Marshall teams with losing records knocked off WVU teams ranked in the Top 25.

After the December 2014 game, new Marshall coach Dan D’Antoni challenged WVU and Huggins to consider playing the game twice a season, once at Charleston and the other on alternating campuses. To not do so would mean the Mountaineers are “afraid” of the Herd, D’Antoni said.Huggins mocked that statement at length on MetroNews’ Statewide Sportsline, suggesting his team didn’t gain from playing Marshall even once. D’Antoni offered a clarification after the most recent game.“When I said they were afraid of us, I was talking about the institutions more, not him personally,” D’Antoni said of Huggins. “It’s like they’re afraid that we might win and then it would take some of their thunder.“I think we need to get rid of that notion. That’s foolish. That’s looking down on Marshall.”The drafted bill, a simple document of two sentences, would leave the details to the schools: “During every school year, the men’s basketball team of West Virginia University and Marshall University shall play at least one regular-season basketball game against each other. The venue, date, and all other pertinent details of the basketball game shall be determined jointly by the universities.”

The bill will be formally submitted when the session begins next week, Woelfel said. “I’ve had a lot of positive feedback from other senators from around the state,” he said. He acknowledged there are more pressing issues the Legislature must address, but he pointed out in a press release that Kentucky and other state legislatures have passed similar mandates on getting rival schools together in sporting events.At the least, Woelfel said he wants to at least bring some discussion about preserving one of the state’s most talked-about sporting events.“Drive through those campuses, and you see the millions of dollars the citizens, the taxpayers have invested in the two universities,” he said. “The game really belongs to the students and it belongs to the taxpayers, the citizens of the state.“I think folks enjoy tuning in, whether they want to see Marshall get hammered again or vice versa, or just enjoy a game between the two premier universities in the state.”
 
Meh, who cares. If it's not home and home I vote none at all
I agree and I think most of our brethren agree....if we're going to play games away with no return game in Huntington, UK and Louisville will host us every season and pay us much more in money and prestige than WVU ever could!
 
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You'll never get those guys in your gym either.
I agree but we can go to their place and gain more on different levels than we can by just by agreeing to go to Morgantown every year! Why not play top 10 teams for more money than you boys can pay us if we're going to have to travel with no return game?
 
I agree but we can go to their place and gain more on different levels than we can by just by agreeing to go to Morgantown every year! Why not play top 10 teams for more money than you boys can pay us if we're going to have to travel with no return game?
Well UK will not be in the top 10 next week and WVU will likely be ranked ahead of both of them. Not that facts matter.
 
I don't understand the comparison of UK and Louisville to WVU and Marshall.....Both UK and Louisville are basketball powers and both bring a lot to the table.


Marshall is not in a power conference, brings nothing to the table, not even in attendance, yet gets equal the revenue.

If there ever comes a day that Marshall is on equal ground and just comes close to bringing something to the table, then I'd agree. The two schools should play home and home.

I'm not against the two playing now, but it should be on WVU's terms.

No way, should the revenues be split. Marshall's program sucks and it has sucked for years. Has never won a game in the Big Dance and hasn't competed in it since Reagan was president.

WVU is the heart of the series. Marshall is the pinky toe.

UK and Louisville are two basketball powers. Basketball fans across the country watch and love that series. It makes sense.

Who, outside of our state's borders gives a crap about Marshall basketball, let alone watching WVU dominate it?

And outside of Marshall getting half the profits that WVU and its fans generate, how does it help Marshall?

Come knocking on WVU's door when Marshall basketball is relevant outside the borders of Cabell County. Until then, WVU's way or no way.
 
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I agree but we can go to their place and gain more on different levels than we can by just by agreeing to go to Morgantown every year! Why not play top 10 teams for more money than you boys can pay us if we're going to have to travel with no return game?
Great attitude. Just wish it carried over to your football scheduling philosophy.
 
I don't understand the comparison of UK and Louisville to WVU and Marshall.....Both UK and Louisville are basketball powers and both bring a lot to the table.


Marshall is not in a power conference, brings nothing to the table, not even in attendance, yet gets equal the revenue.

If there ever comes a day that Marshall is on equal ground and just comes close to bringing something to the table, then I'd agree. The two schools should play home and home.

I'm not against the two playing now, but it should be on WVU's terms.

No way, should the revenues be split. Marshall's program sucks and it has sucked for years. Has never won a game in the Big Dance and hasn't competed in it since Reagan was president.

WVU is the heart of the series. Marshall is the pinky toe.

UK and Louisville are two basketball powers. Basketball fans across the country watch and love that series. It makes sense.

Who, outside of our state's borders gives a crap about Marshall basketball, let alone watching WVU dominate it?

And outside of Marshall getting half the profits that WVU and its fans generate, how does it help Marshall?

Come knocking on WVU's door when Marshall basketball is relevant outside the borders of Cabell County. Until then, WVU's way or no way.
Not comparing the two series....just saying UK or Louisville will host us any year with the understanding no return game in Huntington. WVU seems to be pretty much offering the same deal , so why play the them when legitimate top ten programs will play us and pay us more money?
 
Not comparing the two series....just saying UK or Louisville will host us any year with the understanding no return game in Huntington. WVU seems to be pretty much offering the same deal , so why play the them when legitimate top ten programs will play us and pay us more money?
Sure they will...
 
WVU seems to be pretty much offering the same deal , so why play the them when legitimate top ten programs will play us and pay us more money?

And that's a fair question....Well, if it were WVU wanting the game.

You evidently fail to understand that it is Marshall that is pushing for the game. I'd agree with you wholeheartedly if WVU was the side pushing for the game.

Marshall, however, is the one who wants the game. Marshall should play whoever is willing to play. That said, it is in no position to make demands to a team that couldn't care less if they play or not.

Playing the childish "you're scared" card deserves just what Marshall got.

No game.
 
Please...do you not remember the last time you boys played UK. Only the 10 run rule saved you from a worse beatdown!
My point, which appears to be beyond your grasp, is that neither of them our a top 10 team. Look at the last time we play Clemson in football. That has as much relevance today as the UK game does. Just saying.
 
I agree and I think most of our brethren agree....if we're going to play games away with no return game in Huntington, UK and Louisville will host us every season and pay us much more in money and prestige than WVU ever could!
It's very nice of you to offer your teams up as cannon fodder to UK/Looville just like you did to WVU. Bet they won't do it on a nuetral court though......
 
My point, which appears to be beyond your grasp, is that neither of them our a top 10 team. Look at the last time we play Clemson in football. That has as much relevance today as the UK game does. Just saying.
My point is that Vegas would have both Louisville rightly favored over WVU....both better teams this year and not even close historically! But you must know that!
 
My point is that Vegas would have both Louisville rightly favored over WVU....both better teams this year and not even close historically! But you must know that!
Actually WVU would be a 1pt dog to UL and a 6 pt favorite against UK on a neutral court (based on the Sagarin predictor). Watching UL struggle with a bad NC State team, I would take the points. Good luck getting a game, let alone a neutral court game against a top 10 team.

Look at the bright side, now you can claim to be able to beat us every year we do not play you in basketball, just like football. Imaginary victories it is all Marshall can muster.
 
Actually WVU would be a 1pt dog to UL and a 6 pt favorite against UK on a neutral court (based on the Sagarin predictor). Watching UL struggle with a bad NC State team, I would take the points. Good luck getting a game, let alone a neutral court game against a top 10 team.

Look at the bright side, now you can claim to be able to beat us every year we do not play you in basketball, just like football. Imaginary victories it is all Marshall can muster.
Sagaran's aren't used by Vegas and shouldn't be taken too seriously by anybody, IMHO! WVU, who doesn't have a single player that would start for UK or get any playing time, would beat the 'cats by 6 points? Hahahahahaha...you surely don't believe that!
 
Sagaran's aren't used by Vegas and shouldn't be taken too seriously by anybody, IMHO! WVU, who doesn't have a single player that would start for UK or get any playing time, would beat the 'cats by 6 points? Hahahahahaha...you surely don't believe that!
You must not watch much basketball. Your ignorance certainly suggests that.
 
You must not watch much basketball. Your ignorance certainly suggests that.
Bet that way then...."a fool and his money are soon parted" - B. Franklin. But, I prefer " it's not that a fool and his money are soon parted....it's that they ever had a meeting in the first place" - G. Gekko.
 
Ignorance is bliss. Please post a Vegas line then. In absence of that, I used what was available. It only predicts we beat you by 20. Not even close since we beat you by 18. Huggins using the mercy rule was all that prevented that. Point is Marshall is a poor team. Put a better product on the floor and you might pick up some decent games. I don't waste my money on betting on sports but you go right ahead and waste yours. As for WVU we are done with you clowns and rightfully so.
 
D'Antoni Doctrine fulfilled. Good for him...........good for us. How long before some politician tries to legislate the series to continue in order to gain votes in his district?.............oh - it's already in the works. Surprise, surprise.
 
Sagaran's aren't used by Vegas and shouldn't be taken too seriously by anybody, IMHO! WVU, who doesn't have a single player that would start for UK or get any playing time, would beat the 'cats by 6 points? Hahahahahaha...you surely don't believe that!
Our opening line from Vegas -14 against OSU. The Sagarin predictor is 14. Big discrepancy there.
 
Ignorance is bliss. Please post a Vegas line then. In absence of that, I used what was available. It only predicts we beat you by 20. Not even close since we beat you by 18. Huggins using the mercy rule was all that prevented that. Point is Marshall is a poor team. Put a better product on the floor and you might pick up some decent games. I don't waste my money on betting on sports but you go right ahead and waste yours. As for WVU we are done with you clowns and rightfully so.
No doubt, WVU is better than MU but big doubt as to whether the Mounties could handle UK or U of L in 2016.
 
No doubt, WVU is better than MU but big doubt as to whether the Mounties could handle UK or U of L in 2016.

I wouldn't say "big doubt".... KY is nowhere near as good as they were last year.... Not sure how good Louisville is.... WVU is 13-1 and about to go 14-1 as a 14 point favorite tomorrow. They have won 3 back to back to back road games (something I believe you whined about). So, to say there is a large doubt whether or not they could handle UK(Handled them a few years ago as a big dog in the tournament) or Louisville is a biased statement and one of hope.
 
No doubt, WVU is better than MU but big doubt as to whether the Mounties could handle UK or U of L in 2016.
We play a lot better teams then either one of them this year and may have an opportunity to play them in the tournament. You know that thing at the end of the year that the better teams play in. When was the last year MU played in it? I would like our chances against either team.
 
You must not watch much basketball. Your ignorance certainly suggests that.
You have to understand. For lots of these guys, UK is their "Good team" they root for. All Marshall fans have alternate teams in both sports yet claim to be diehards for Moo. It's sadly pathetic and equally hilarious to talk sports with them.
 
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Not comparing the two series....just saying UK or Louisville will host us any year with the understanding no return game in Huntington. WVU seems to be pretty much offering the same deal , so why play the them when legitimate top ten programs will play us and pay us more money?
So it is only good for the state if it is good for Marshall. How convenient.
 
Not comparing the two series....just saying UK or Louisville will host us any year with the understanding no return game in Huntington. WVU seems to be pretty much offering the same deal , so why play the them when legitimate top ten programs will play us and pay us more money?

Because you Herdiots want nothing more that to have a shot at the flagship program. WVU is your Holy Grail. Marshall is one of those programs that take a paycheck and do not get home and home scheduling with the big boys. Recognize your place in the whole scheme of things and agree play every game in Morgantown or shut up about it. Enough said.
 
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