If Will Grier is tops in passing yards, passing tds & completion pct, is he the Heisman winner?

[5-Technique]

I was thinking about this more after I read the piece that was posted on this message board. Does he win it if we are 9-3, 10-2? I think WVU would have to at least make the Big 12 Championship Game and more likely would have to win it. I dunno...I was in school when there was the "Amos for Heisman" campaign that was pre-internet marketing like it is today and I never really felt he was a legitimate contender even though I think he finished 5th or 6th that year if I am not mistaken. Not sure if he wins it but I feel that Grier is a finalist if he stays upright.

 

[writeon]

I agree that WVU would have to win 9 or more. Anything less and a QB on a 10- to 15-win team will appear to be superior even if his numbers are lower than Grier's. A lot of great athletes spend their careers on losing teams and never make anyone's Hall of Fame.

Same with coaching. A WV h.s. coach with absolutely little talent can guide a team to 5-5 or 6-4--best coaching job in state--and he won't be considered for coach of the year.

 

[MountainBill]

Only if we win the Big12 and make it to the playoffs.

 

[BobbyBoucheer]

no

 

[SeronimusPratt]

Only if we win the Big12 and make it to the playoffs.

Lamar Jackson didn't.

 

[Rootmaster]

MountainBill nailed the correct answer. Nine wins would not get the trophy for Grier even if he put up 10,000 yards. WVU has to re-emerge as a national contender for Grier to even get a serious look. It is all about getting your TEAM to win.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Unfortunately a lot of the Heisman votes depends on wins and losses.

 

[Rootmaster]

Well Allen, that is the reason they play the game....so it should be the dominant factor.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

Check out the list of recent Heisman winners and you have your answer.
From Oklahoma, Louisville, Alabama, Oregon, Florida State, Texas A&M, Baylor, Auburn.
Minimum requirement: Big 12 title. Better shot: WVU in national football playoffs. Best shot: QB of national champs.

 

[jpoppa]

All bout those wins and then stats

 

[WVUALLEN]

Check out the list of recent Heisman winners and you have your answer.
From Oklahoma, Louisville, Alabama, Oregon, Florida State, Texas A&M, Baylor, Auburn.
Minimum requirement: Big 12 title. Better shot: WVU in national football playoffs. Best shot: QB of national champs.

Trophy is awarded Dec. 8th. So your minimum requirements are out.

 

[OlegeezEER]

I think we would have to win 10 or more games and play in the conference championship game for him to have a shot.

 

[jocktalker]

ESPN would have to get on Will's bandwagon early. Everything else in this thread is immaterial.

 

[Spocker]

NO...

 

[tigeer]

If Grier is all that then I just hope that the defense can at least get in somebody’s way

 

[JediMastEER]

Lamar Jackson didn't.

The reason Jackson won despite the losses was because of when those losses came. If WVU starts the season 9-1 or 10-0 and Grier puts up top tier numbers, then he'll likely be the frontrunner.

Of course, I'd rather not see a late season collapse on the order of 2016 Louisville, either.