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i heard a rumor spring practice was going on.

eers1foru

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Goes to show how much gusto our football program has lost. In the middle of their spring practice and this board is talking about other teams/conferences basketball and basket ball refs. I guess I'm not the only one who cares less because it's obvious we won't contend for anything more than a winning record under DH.
 
Even in the Pat White years nobody really cared about Spring football...
 
I beg to differ. It wasn't at a fever pitch but you could at least come on the board and discuss who looks better and who was the next big thing. I was here during the Pat White years. And the years before. This is the least interest showed since I've been on any of these message boards. And being god awful on the field for four years is the reason why in my opinion. Anyone care to guess what happened four years ago that had a huge impact on our program?
 
Originally posted by eers1foru:

I beg to differ. It wasn't at a fever pitch but you could at least come on the board and discuss who looks better and who was the next big thing. I was here during the Pat White years. And the years before. This is the least interest showed since I've been on any of these message boards. And being god awful on the field for four years is the reason why in my opinion. Anyone care to guess what happened four years ago that had a huge impact on our program?
The problem is more to do with the lack of coverage the media gets so it's hard for fans to talk about a team they know nothing about. When there are daily updates, pictures, videos, etc. the fans have far more to talk about and the excitement builds. Also the spring break is great for the players but it's another reason fans lose interest.
 
with you, it's not like it takes much............... he could mismatch his socks, and that'd be enough...
 
Mismatched socks and four win seasons is plenty for me! Come to think of it his socks could match and I'd still not like him. As a coach at least. I bet he'd be a hoot to hang out with once the game was over though.
 
I didn't know about any of that stuff, Vernon...

The original poster has a valid point.

I am, and always have been, a football fan first, second, and third. By contrast, yesterday for the first time ever I was trying to search for future WVU basketball schedules.

The stagnancy of the football program under Stewart was cited as a reason for making a change, and that was a legitimate concern. However, the results on the field never made me lose excitement about WVU football in general--even though its direction at the time was not moving forward.

That isn't the case any more. The Holgorsen era is sapping some of my enthusiasm for WVU football and, judging by the original poster's words, I am not the only one. I no longer care as much about hearing the latest buzz coming out of spring football--regardless of when or how that information is disseminated. No matter what we read, the eventual results will be middling yet again...with more of the same blather by his gang of PR flacks about how he still needs a few extra years to build up the talent base for the alleged rigors of Big 12 play.

As a different poster on these boards first mentioned a few months ago, Luck appears to have made something far worse than a bad hire: He made a painfully mediocre one. Holgorsen isn't quite bad enough to get fired, but he also isn't good enough to get us anywhere. Eventually that isn't going to be a positive for business at a school which has been football-first for decades...either Vernon's business or the athletic department's.

For the record, Vernon, the Holgorsen-era malaise and the accompanying hijacking of the board in the last 2 years by his attack dogs like Keaton, Painted, wbgvwbgv, and Shipyard ARE the only reasons I have not rejoined the pay portion of your site. I find it hard to believe I am the only potential customer who has made the same decision.
 
This board is garbage if you are looking for real info and interaction with WVU fans (no offense Vernon). You need to be on the premium board sir. I think that is more what you are looking for. You won't regret it.
 
Some of you are basically admitting that you're bandwagon fans.

No big deal though.

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I've been following spring practice. It was nice going into the middle of March Madness too. Who could help but want to follow Kentucky after they both beat our asses and then verbally trashed our team ??

They recently lost and it's the 'hot topic'.

Big deal that is seemingly more popular than spring training.

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Let's be honest though.... ...this thread is really dedicated to dicking on our football coach.
 
Re: I didn't know about any of that stuff, Vernon...


Originally posted by GoWVU:
The original poster has a valid point.

I am, and always have been, a football fan first, second, and third. By contrast, yesterday for the first time ever I was trying to search for future WVU basketball schedules.

The stagnancy of the football program under Stewart was cited as a reason for making a change, and that was a legitimate concern. However, the results on the field never made me lose excitement about WVU football in general--even though its direction at the time was not moving forward.

That isn't the case any more. The Holgorsen era is sapping some of my enthusiasm for WVU football and, judging by the original poster's words, I am not the only one. I no longer care as much about hearing the latest buzz coming out of spring football--regardless of when or how that information is disseminated. No matter what we read, the eventual results will be middling yet again...with more of the same blather by his gang of PR flacks about how he still needs a few extra years to build up the talent base for the alleged rigors of Big 12 play.

As a different poster on these boards first mentioned a few months ago, Luck appears to have made something far worse than a bad hire: He made a painfully mediocre one. Holgorsen isn't quite bad enough to get fired, but he also isn't good enough to get us anywhere. Eventually that isn't going to be a positive for business at a school which has been football-first for decades...either Vernon's business or the athletic department's.

For the record, Vernon, the Holgorsen-era malaise and the accompanying hijacking of the board in the last 2 years by his attack dogs like Keaton, Painted, wbgvwbgv, and Shipyard ARE the only reasons I have not rejoined the pay portion of your site. I find it hard to believe I am the only potential customer who has made the same decision.
you use too many words, too long. but i agree with it all. the bgn takeover of the board (Keaton, Painted, wbgvwbgv,and Shipyard) doesn't help anything. but the real problem is football, under dana, just does not move the needle.

only 7 months to basketball season.
 
Originally posted by LowFatMilk:

Some of you are basically admitting that you're bandwagon fans.

No big deal though.

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I've been following spring practice. It was nice going into the middle of March Madness too. Who could help but want to follow Kentucky after they both beat our asses and then verbally trashed our team ??

They recently lost and it's the 'hot topic'.

Big deal that is seemingly more popular than spring training.

===================

Let's be honest though.... ...this thread is really dedicated to dicking on our football coach.
Let's be honest if it was intended as a dicking of our coach that would have been my opening statement. I have no trouble telling you Dana is mediocre at best as a football coach. And the fact that he still has a job is because Oliver Luck saw one bowl game and screwed the pooch is ironic. Just like the guys who hired Bill Stewart did.
This thread was started because our football team is in the middle of spring practice and the board set up to talk about WVU sports was more concerned with Duke basketball and racial slurs from a week ago. It's an indictment on the excitement level around our football program. Just because two or three idiots keep telling everyone it's never Dana's fault, doesn't mean it's not Dana's fault. As fpr the bandwagon statement, I'm still here talking WVU sports when most tothers are content with Duke and Kentucky. Do I have the positive outlook I had a few years ago? Nope, but I call it being a realist not bandwagon fans. A real bandwagon fan wouldn't be on here trying to see if we have anyone stepping up at key positions. They'd be talking about Duke and Kentucky because they didn't care about WVU cause we've been bad for a while now.
This post was edited on 4/7 4:13 PM by eers1foru
 
Let me retract my earlier statement. Keep your dunk hillbilly opinions over here on the free site where they belong please. I am glad that you either are unwilling or can't afford a premium membership.
 
Re: I didn't know about any of that stuff, Vernon...


Originally posted by KeatonsCorner:
You still looking past Kentucky, Paper?
i'm guilty of message board confidence. you're guilty of not knowing shot about basketball.


i'm fine with the situation.
 
Oh I can be called bandwagon and coach hater for free. No need to pay to watch the premium board slobber all over Dana. If varying opinions were actually welcomed I'd consider the BLUE LOT. As for the can't afford I'm not sure if that was supposed to be an insult or not. But I'll gladly compare paychecks anytime you feel so inclined.
 
You're entitled to your opinion, I don't agree with it re: the HC at this point in time. I saw improvement last year (on the whole), Just renewed my season's tix and looking forward to seeing many returning players, and what looks like a good crop of new ones. Disappointed we lost Bradley but hey, he went for a promotion so I can't be angry...I'm amped up for football (particularly the Mountaineer variety) all year long, and enjoy hearing the updates of practice but when it starts to get cooler at night in late August...that's when it gets serious for this guy...
 
When will these people give up the Dana hate? Bottom line is that he's not a native so you don't like him...plain and simple.

-- & don't give me the "Nehlen was not a native" BS, because he might as well have been from WV.

BTW, RR was a native. How did that work out for us?
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Considering we are 18-20 over the last three years....being .500 would be an improvement.
 
MY OPPION ONLY!

I have never been on this thread but I read it daily and for the life of me I do not understand how a bunch supposed to be W.V.A followers can sit there and critical of the current coaches when they the critizers do not know a thing about football or basketball. If you do not know anything about what you are talking about keep you mouth shut.
 
Dana giving zero interest to the press. No press passes last weekend in Shepherdstown .

The program charges more to attend but gives less to the fans under Dana.

If you look at the press interaction between the football program and the press during spring ball it consists of a presser at the start of practice and one after the spring game.

Thats it....
 
When idiot members of the WV press openly refer to our coach as "clown".................... they don't deserve access.


Pay a membership here. Find out what you want to find out.
 
Originally posted by 5150:
Dana giving zero interest to the press. No press passes last weekend in Shepherdstown .

The program charges more to attend but gives less to the fans under Dana.

If you look at the press interaction between the football program and the press during spring ball it consists of a presser at the start of practice and one after the spring game.

Thats it....
Do you believe you're missing something? If so, what do you believe you're missing?
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If you're closing practice, you better have a really good reason. Like, changing your offense, for instance. I would welcome that. Tired of watching WVU play flag football like the rest of the Big 12. We should line up in a pro set, move some guys around before the snap and just savage these weak run defenses that we play year after year..but nooo...we have to play like Big 12 teams.
 
Originally posted by eers1foru:
Originally posted by LowFatMilk:

Some of you are basically admitting that you're bandwagon fans.

No big deal though.

----------

I've been following spring practice. It was nice going into the middle of March Madness too. Who could help but want to follow Kentucky after they both beat our asses and then verbally trashed our team ??

They recently lost and it's the 'hot topic'.

Big deal that is seemingly more popular than spring training.

===================

Let's be honest though.... ...this thread is really dedicated to dicking on our football coach.
Let's be honest if it was intended as a dicking of our coach that would have been my opening statement. I have no trouble telling you Dana is mediocre at best as a football coach. And the fact that he still has a job is because Oliver Luck saw one bowl game and screwed the pooch is ironic. Just like the guys who hired Bill Stewart did.
This thread was started because our football team is in the middle of spring practice and the board set up to talk about WVU sports was more concerned with Duke basketball and racial slurs from a week ago. It's an indictment on the excitement level around our football program. Just because two or three idiots keep telling everyone it's never Dana's fault, doesn't mean it's not Dana's fault. As fpr the bandwagon statement, I'm still here talking WVU sports when most tothers are content with Duke and Kentucky. Do I have the positive outlook I had a few years ago? Nope, but I call it being a realist not bandwagon fans. A real bandwagon fan wouldn't be on here trying to see if we have anyone stepping up at key positions. They'd be talking about Duke and Kentucky because they didn't care about WVU cause we've been bad for a while now.
This post was edited on 4/7 4:13 PM by eers1foru
We get it. You don't like Dana. You'll turn any conversation in that direction. Really, we get it.

Try to move on from it...


This post was edited on 4/8 1:23 PM by Thumper
 
Originally posted by doctom4:

If you're closing practice, you better have a really good reason. Like, changing your offense, for instance. I would welcome that. Tired of watching WVU play flag football like the rest of the Big 12. We should line up in a pro set, move some guys around before the snap and just savage these weak run defenses that we play year after year..but nooo...we have to play like Big 12 teams.
.......and here you find an example of just why practices are closed.
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Originally posted by Thumper:

Originally posted by eers1foru:

Originally posted by LowFatMilk:

Some of you are basically admitting that you're bandwagon fans.

No big deal though.

----------

I've been following spring practice. It was nice going into the middle of March Madness too. Who could help but want to follow Kentucky after they both beat our asses and then verbally trashed our team ??

They recently lost and it's the 'hot topic'.

Big deal that is seemingly more popular than spring training.

===================

Let's be honest though.... ...this thread is really dedicated to dicking on our football coach.
Let's be honest if it was intended as a dicking of our coach that would have been my opening statement. I have no trouble telling you Dana is mediocre at best as a football coach. And the fact that he still has a job is because Oliver Luck saw one bowl game and screwed the pooch is ironic. Just like the guys who hired Bill Stewart did.
This thread was started because our football team is in the middle of spring practice and the board set up to talk about WVU sports was more concerned with Duke basketball and racial slurs from a week ago. It's an indictment on the excitement level around our football program. Just because two or three idiots keep telling everyone it's never Dana's fault, doesn't mean it's not Dana's fault. As fpr the bandwagon statement, I'm still here talking WVU sports when most tothers are content with Duke and Kentucky. Do I have the positive outlook I had a few years ago? Nope, but I call it being a realist not bandwagon fans. A real bandwagon fan wouldn't be on here trying to see if we have anyone stepping up at key positions. They'd be talking about Duke and Kentucky because they didn't care about WVU cause we've been bad for a while now.

This post was edited on 4/7 4:13 PM by eers1foru
We get it. You don't like Dana. You'll turn any conversation in that direction. Really, we get it.

Try to move on from it...



This post was edited on 4/8 1:23 PM by Thumper
You almost got it right. I don't like watching 4-8 seasons followed by 4-8 season to the point that almost beating good teams and getting thumped by a barely above average team in a barely above average bowl is considered a success.
Admittedly I bought into the "we are much better" hype until I realized we beat 3 teams with a winning record last season. We showed improvement but I think just as much a key to our "success", was our competition was just as woeful as we were.
 
I think the bowl games were a pretty good barometer of where the Big 12 is vs. the rest of the nation, which is to say, a cut below almost all of it.
 
Local newspaper was told no one on sidelines. ..can take pictures from stands but no press on sidelines.
 
Originally posted by 5150:
Local newspaper was told no one on sidelines. ..can take pictures from stands but no press on sidelines.
Local newspaper wasn't allow in the huddle either, nor to ride the team bus, and absolutely forbidden to take showers with the players.
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Originally posted by eers1foru:
Originally posted by Thumper:

Originally posted by eers1foru:

Originally posted by LowFatMilk:

Some of you are basically admitting that you're bandwagon fans.

No big deal though.

----------

I've been following spring practice. It was nice going into the middle of March Madness too. Who could help but want to follow Kentucky after they both beat our asses and then verbally trashed our team ??

They recently lost and it's the 'hot topic'.

Big deal that is seemingly more popular than spring training.

===================

Let's be honest though.... ...this thread is really dedicated to dicking on our football coach.
Let's be honest if it was intended as a dicking of our coach that would have been my opening statement. I have no trouble telling you Dana is mediocre at best as a football coach. And the fact that he still has a job is because Oliver Luck saw one bowl game and screwed the pooch is ironic. Just like the guys who hired Bill Stewart did.
This thread was started because our football team is in the middle of spring practice and the board set up to talk about WVU sports was more concerned with Duke basketball and racial slurs from a week ago. It's an indictment on the excitement level around our football program. Just because two or three idiots keep telling everyone it's never Dana's fault, doesn't mean it's not Dana's fault. As fpr the bandwagon statement, I'm still here talking WVU sports when most tothers are content with Duke and Kentucky. Do I have the positive outlook I had a few years ago? Nope, but I call it being a realist not bandwagon fans. A real bandwagon fan wouldn't be on here trying to see if we have anyone stepping up at key positions. They'd be talking about Duke and Kentucky because they didn't care about WVU cause we've been bad for a while now.

This post was edited on 4/7 4:13 PM by eers1foru
We get it. You don't like Dana. You'll turn any conversation in that direction. Really, we get it.

Try to move on from it...



This post was edited on 4/8 1:23 PM by Thumper
You almost got it right. I don't like watching 4-8 seasons followed by 4-8 season to the point that almost beating good teams and getting thumped by a barely above average team in a barely above average bowl is considered a success.
Admittedly I bought into the "we are much better" hype until I realized we beat 3 teams with a winning record last season. We showed improvement but I think just as much a key to our "success", was our competition was just as woeful as we were.
these attack dogs try to frame any discussion of dana's performance as a personal attack. they're not all stupid enough to truly believe their drivel..

it's just another tactic used to derail any valid discussion
 
Originally posted by Vernon:

Originally posted by 5150:
Dana giving zero interest to the press. No press passes last weekend in Shepherdstown .
Not sure where you heard that but we did have media access in Shepherdstown.
This is freaking hilarious...5150, you sir, have been EXPOSED!

-- both your lie and your bias...

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Originally posted by wvpaper:


Originally posted by eers1foru:

Originally posted by Thumper:


Originally posted by eers1foru:


Originally posted by LowFatMilk:

Some of you are basically admitting that you're bandwagon fans.

No big deal though.

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I've been following spring practice. It was nice going into the middle of March Madness too. Who could help but want to follow Kentucky after they both beat our asses and then verbally trashed our team ??

They recently lost and it's the 'hot topic'.

Big deal that is seemingly more popular than spring training.

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Let's be honest though.... ...this thread is really dedicated to dicking on our football coach.
Let's be honest if it was intended as a dicking of our coach that would have been my opening statement. I have no trouble telling you Dana is mediocre at best as a football coach. And the fact that he still has a job is because Oliver Luck saw one bowl game and screwed the pooch is ironic. Just like the guys who hired Bill Stewart did.
This thread was started because our football team is in the middle of spring practice and the board set up to talk about WVU sports was more concerned with Duke basketball and racial slurs from a week ago. It's an indictment on the excitement level around our football program. Just because two or three idiots keep telling everyone it's never Dana's fault, doesn't mean it's not Dana's fault. As fpr the bandwagon statement, I'm still here talking WVU sports when most tothers are content with Duke and Kentucky. Do I have the positive outlook I had a few years ago? Nope, but I call it being a realist not bandwagon fans. A real bandwagon fan wouldn't be on here trying to see if we have anyone stepping up at key positions. They'd be talking about Duke and Kentucky because they didn't care about WVU cause we've been bad for a while now.


This post was edited on 4/7 4:13 PM by eers1foru
We get it. You don't like Dana. You'll turn any conversation in that direction. Really, we get it.

Try to move on from it...




This post was edited on 4/8 1:23 PM by Thumper
You almost got it right. I don't like watching 4-8 seasons followed by 4-8 season to the point that almost beating good teams and getting thumped by a barely above average team in a barely above average bowl is considered a success.
Admittedly I bought into the "we are much better" hype until I realized we beat 3 teams with a winning record last season. We showed improvement but I think just as much a key to our "success", was our competition was just as woeful as we were.
these attack dogs try to frame any discussion of dana's performance as a personal attack. they're not all stupid enough to truly believe their drivel..

it's just another tactic used to derail any valid discussion
So, share with us your criteria for evaluating "dana's performance", please share your expertise and acumen with "these attack dogs", and let's see just how stupid 'they' truly are and to demonstrate their 'tactic'(s)............. I remind you though, there's one thing that has been demonstrated on this board time after time after time, most posters around here most certainly do not believe your "drivel".
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my opinions on dana are well known. and there's nothing i could post (actually on any subject) that about 6 of you wont disparage.

my dissatisfaction with your guy's performance is just too much for you to overcome
 
Originally posted by 5150:
Local newspaper was told no one on sidelines. ..can take pictures from stands but no press on sidelines.
We had 30 minutes of access and then we had to be off of the field until practice was almost over. After that we access to players and coaches.
 
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