How does Trump (MAGA) threaten democracy?

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You constantly hear this from Dems and establishment RINOs.
Is it all about 1/6? First of all, no election results were changed by 1/6. Also, what seems to be missed is that the protesters on 1/6 were all about democracy. They truly believed with good reason that the election was stolen by massive fraud and thereby, democracy was denied.
They keep saying that if MAGA candidates win then democracy is lost.
Can anyone explain this? It just sounds to me like a tactic to scare voters.
 

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You constantly hear this from Dems and establishment RINOs.
Is it all about 1/6? First of all, no election results were changed by 1/6. Also, what seems to be missed is that the protesters on 1/6 were all about democracy. They truly believed with good reason that the election was stolen by massive fraud and thereby, democracy was denied.
They keep saying that if MAGA candidates win then democracy is lost.
Can anyone explain this? It just sounds to me like a tactic to scare voters.
Have you been asleep for the last 6 or so years? The fact that you have to ask the question says it all. Be a good sheep and just do what he tells you to do.
 
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Nothing was more entertaining than watching moe and his leaders on the left flip flop stances on protests twice. First the protesters in Michigan were spreading Covid and protests should be condemned. The next day George Floyd got high, committed a felony and fought the responding officer and rioting and torching federal buildings were justified in their minds. Then January 6 occurred and rioting is bad again.

f’n moerons
 

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Have you been asleep for the last 6 or so years? The fact that you have to ask the question says it all. Be a good sheep and just do what he tells you to do.
Thanks but this doesn’t answer my question.
If anything it’s the Democrats who are threatening democracy and I, unlike you, can site examples:
Denial of free speech which is necessary for a democracy.
A media establishment that is the propaganda wing of one party thwarts democracy.
Forcing a radical Marxist agenda on what was always a free country with only a bare legislative majority is clearly undemocratic.
Threatening to stack the SC, killing the filibuster and adding states to gain a bigger majority; all anti democratic.
Fostering an administrative state that makes laws and regulations by unelected bureaucrats as opposed to the elected officials flies in the face of democracy.
Finally, and most obviously, the widespread voter fraud and flaunting of existing election laws in order to overrule the will of the people committed by the Democrat party.
Now I ask again how does MAGA threaten democracy?
 

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Thanks but this doesn’t answer my question.
If anything it’s the Democrats who are threatening democracy and I, unlike you, can site examples:
Denial of free speech which is necessary for a democracy.
A media establishment that is the propaganda wing of one party thwarts democracy.
Forcing a radical Marxist agenda on what was always a free country with only a bare legislative majority is clearly undemocratic.
Threatening to stack the SC, killing the filibuster and adding states to gain a bigger majority; all anti democratic.
Fostering an administrative state that makes laws and regulations by unelected bureaucrats as opposed to the elected officials flies in the face of democracy.
Finally, and most obviously, the widespread voter fraud and flaunting of existing election laws in order to overrule the will of the people committed by the Democrat party.
Now I ask again how does MAGA threaten democracy?

hes too retarded to answer that.
 
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Thanks but this doesn’t answer my question.
If anything it’s the Democrats who are threatening democracy and I, unlike you, can site examples:
Denial of free speech which is necessary for a democracy.
A media establishment that is the propaganda wing of one party thwarts democracy.
Forcing a radical Marxist agenda on what was always a free country with only a bare legislative majority is clearly undemocratic.
Threatening to stack the SC, killing the filibuster and adding states to gain a bigger majority; all anti democratic.
Fostering an administrative state that makes laws and regulations by unelected bureaucrats as opposed to the elected officials flies in the face of democracy.
Finally, and most obviously, the widespread voter fraud and flaunting of existing election laws in order to overrule the will of the people committed by the Democrat party.
Now I ask again how does MAGA threaten democracy?
Did you wake and bake? Free speech. Who is banning books and telling teachers what topics they can't cover? Yes, Repubs. Media. Fox News Hannity actually introduced Trump on the campaign trail and was a shadow Chief of Staff who spoke and texted with Trump daily. Fox News was an arm of the White House media. "Forcing a radical Marxist agenda"...I truly don't think you know what that means or can say how it relates to the current POTUS. Stack the SC, etc. Does it hurt your feelings when those topics are discussed? seems so. McConnell played dirty pool and denied Garland a SCOTUS spot and Trump's nominees lied to get their seats. None of the rest has come to pass or get seriously discussed so don't be scared. You don't like our form of government and want to destroy it like Trump, Bannon, et al. Awesome. Of course, the only election fraud in 2020 was by Trump and Repubs and court proceedings are ongoing with prison sentences on the way. You're just another ultra-gullible Repub who believes Trump's election fraud lies. Where are your courtroom victories from when you brought your election fraud lies to court? You all got your asses thrown out of court and some of your lawyers are facing legal troubles because of it.

I'm a fool for even talking to you and won't let you waste much of my time. Ok, tell us about the fake slates of electors you all sent to DC. WTF was that all about? The people involved with those will all likely do jail time. Do you think Trump/Repubs trying to steal an election and trying to destroy American's faith in our election system good or bad for democracy?
 

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Did you wake and bake? Free speech. Who is banning books and telling teachers what topics they can't cover? Yes, Repubs. Media. Fox News Hannity actually introduced Trump on the campaign trail and was a shadow Chief of Staff who spoke and texted with Trump daily. Fox News was an arm of the White House media. "Forcing a radical Marxist agenda"...I truly don't think you know what that means or can say how it relates to the current POTUS. Stack the SC, etc. Does it hurt your feelings when those topics are discussed? seems so. McConnell played dirty pool and denied Garland a SCOTUS spot and Trump's nominees lied to get their seats. None of the rest has come to pass or get seriously discussed so don't be scared. You don't like our form of government and want to destroy it like Trump, Bannon, et al. Awesome. Of course, the only election fraud in 2020 was by Trump and Repubs and court proceedings are ongoing with prison sentences on the way. You're just another ultra-gullible Repub who believes Trump's election fraud lies. Where are your courtroom victories from when you brought your election fraud lies to court? You all got your asses thrown out of court and some of your lawyers are facing legal troubles because of it.

I'm a fool for even talking to you and won't let you waste much of my time. Ok, tell us about the fake slates of electors you all sent to DC. WTF was that all about? The people involved with those will all likely do jail time. Do you think Trump/Repubs trying to steal an election and trying to destroy American's faith in our election system good or bad for democracy?



They are not going to let up and they shouldn't. Harris supporting Marxist groups rioting.
 

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Pictures of antifa flag and Mao Zedong on his classroom walls, teacher worked to turn students into revolutionaries​

 

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MAGA is about Constitutional order so, yes, it is good for Democracy.
Democrats are about absolute power, silencing dissent and promoting Marxism.
Great, you have nothing except for trying to remember what right-wing media trolls say. Empty words with no back up coming from you.
 

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MAGA is about Constitutional order so, yes, it is good for Democracy.
Democrats are about absolute power, silencing dissent and promoting Marxism.

Moe is playing ignorant. Nevermind what Fox News says. I posted tons of information on here with words coming out of these groups own leaders mouths and Social media of who they are and what they stand for.
 

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MAGA is about Constitutional order so, yes, it is good for Democracy.
Democrats are about absolute power, silencing dissent and promoting Marxism.

Guess what Chapter Moe belongs to.

 
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They want to start a Civil War and blame it on you because you don't agree with them.


It’s a shame we don’t have a fair rule of law. Picking and choosing who to investigate and indict based on political party is exactly what Nazi Germany did in the 1930’s.
 

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Guess what Chapter Moe belongs to.

I’m guessing moe is one of the unelected bureaucrat socialists. When I decried the administrative state as being undemocratic it seemed to have hit a nerve. He called it “our form of government “.
News flash moe: The administrative state is the antithesis of our form of government.
 

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I’m guessing moe is one of the unelected bureaucrat socialists. When I decried the administrative state as being undemocratic it seemed to have hit a nerve. He called it “our form of government “.
News flash moe: The administrative state is the antithesis of our form of government.
Sorry that things aren't working out for you.
 

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It's all been pretty well stated by the OP in this thread. One thing you will NEVER hear any Leftist admit is their failure to win their policy objectives honestly. No one wants Socialism, so Leftists constantly dress it up to be something it's not. At the end of the day they can neither advocate honestly for it nor defend it. So they resort to lies, power plays, sexism, racism...anything that helps them achieve their objective (including calling MAGA supporters White nationalists) because they cannot honestly win promising to turn America into a Socialist nation.

Try getting one of them to admit that. However that is EXACTLY how they operate, and what they're trying to accomplish.
 
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They want to start a Civil War and blame it on you because you don't agree with them.


We'll beat them at the ballot box with better ideas for the country. There won't be a need for a "Civil War" unless they try to illegally overthrow the will of the voters. We know they've already tried it. That's what the fake Russian "collusion" scam was all about, that's what all of those "mules" were doing stuffing all of those mail in ballot drop boxes, and that's why they don't support voter I.D.'s for illegals or anyone else casting a ballot!

They can't win unless they cheat. However they can't cheat if it isn't close, so we need to make sure there's no Civil War or cheating by simply burying them at the polls! We have better ideas, and they can't/won't defend their failed ideas.

We'll win but we've all got to GO AND VOTE!!!!!

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Did you wake and bake? Free speech. Who is banning books and telling teachers what topics they can't cover? Yes, Repubs. Media. Fox News Hannity actually introduced Trump on the campaign trail and was a shadow Chief of Staff who spoke and texted with Trump daily. Fox News was an arm of the White House media. "Forcing a radical Marxist agenda"...I truly don't think you know what that means or can say how it relates to the current POTUS. Stack the SC, etc. Does it hurt your feelings when those topics are discussed? seems so. McConnell played dirty pool and denied Garland a SCOTUS spot and Trump's nominees lied to get their seats. None of the rest has come to pass or get seriously discussed so don't be scared. You don't like our form of government and want to destroy it like Trump, Bannon, et al. Awesome. Of course, the only election fraud in 2020 was by Trump and Repubs and court proceedings are ongoing with prison sentences on the way. You're just another ultra-gullible Repub who believes Trump's election fraud lies. Where are your courtroom victories from when you brought your election fraud lies to court? You all got your asses thrown out of court and some of your lawyers are facing legal troubles because of it.

I'm a fool for even talking to you and won't let you waste much of my time. Ok, tell us about the fake slates of electors you all sent to DC. WTF was that all about? The people involved with those will all likely do jail time. Do you think Trump/Repubs trying to steal an election and trying to destroy American's faith in our election system good or bad for democracy?
Moe really wants to groom babies.

Sick pathetic twat.
 
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I noticed moe only deflected instead of answer. Trurh is he's really scared of Trump like all far left liberal marxist are. That and he can't think for himself. The leftist do that for him.
 

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You constantly hear this from Dems and establishment RINOs.
Is it all about 1/6? First of all, no election results were changed by 1/6. Also, what seems to be missed is that the protesters on 1/6 were all about democracy. They truly believed with good reason that the election was stolen by massive fraud and thereby, democracy was denied.
They keep saying that if MAGA candidates win then democracy is lost.
Can anyone explain this? It just sounds to me like a tactic to scare voters.
good question.

I can't find a liberal to directly answer why Trump provoked the hate filled response he get from the left.

I have surmised it is because Trump upset the establishment. He wasn't on the inside of Washington politics and it upset them. He also bitch slapped the media. The media has a narcissistic personality, entitled to access, and they were not used to being treated in the manner Trump treated them........."fake news". Also, Trump got results, results the left did not want. The left need problems not solved to continue to make promises they do not intend to keep. Trump got results the left loathed.

The left needs to continue the narrative people need the government. Trump had a different narrative the left hates that they would even kill over, and thus they hate messengers of a different narrative, thus they hate Trump.

Lastly, Trump had real power the left couldn't overcome with ideas. So they fabricated situations to smear him. Classic Marxist tactic. When the left can't win with ideas, they use lies.
 
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I noticed moe only deflected instead of answer. Trurh is he's really scared of Trump like all far left liberal marxist are. That and he can't think for himself. The leftist do that for him.
They all lie and always lie. They accuse you of doing what they do or blame you for who they are. They are the anti-Freedom party. They are the racists. They are the sexists. They are the ones destroying Democracy. They cannot defend Socialism. They refuse to admit they're Socialists, so they lie about it or try to call it "something else" by suggesting it's a mixture of Capitalism and responsible government controls. :rolleyes:

All lies.

If Socialism is so great, why does it have to be forced onto people? Why can't they defend its record of success where voters have accepted it? Why are folks who live under it always trying to escape it? No Leftist will ever honestly admit to that or honestly answer that.

Bury them, and their failed ideology. It's easy to do because they cannot fight for it. They can only lie for it.
 

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They all lie and always lie. They accuse you of doing what they do or blame you for who they are. They are the anti-Freedom party. They are the racists. They are the sexists. They are the ones destroying Democracy. They cannot defend Socialism. They refuse to admit they're Socialists, so they lie about it or try to call it "something else" by suggesting it's a mixture of Capitalism and responsible government controls. :rolleyes:

All lies.

If Socialism is so great, why does it have to be forced onto people? Why can't they defend its record of success where voters have accepted it? Why are folks who live under it always trying to escape it? No Leftist will ever honestly admit to that or honestly answer that.

Bury them, and their failed ideology. It's easy to do because they cannot fight for it. They can only lie for it.
As I always ask liberals, if socialism is soo great, why aren’t you on a raft headed for Cuba? Why not be a refugee on Venezuela’s doorstep?
 
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As I always ask liberals, if socialism is soo great, why aren’t you on a raft headed for Cuba? Why not be a refugee on Venezuela’s doorstep?
The ironic thing about Leftists is they know their ideology doesn't work! That's why you'll rarely get one of them to admit to wanting "pure Socialism". So they try to dress it up, or use examples of it where they claim it's working to some limited degree in mostly Capitalist countries. They'll often point to Europe and suggest it's their models we need to follow here in America.

However what they don't admit is those European countries who tried going "all Socialist all the time" quickly discovered it didn't work! So rather than admit defeat, the Socialists simply integrated their failed ideologies into the working Capitalist models then they tried to take credit for whatever success those nations continued to have. It wasn't because of Socialism, it was in spite of it!

They attempt the same camouflage here in America. America's vast economy is so diverse, so powerful, and so dynamic, not even the many Socialist constraints Leftists place on it can totally destroy it. However they do enough damage to ruin Capitalism's superior efficiency and productivity. This is why we're running these massive deficits and why our economy is in a period of "stagflation". Failed Socialist ideas on government spending and taxing productivity.

It's also why the Left is determined to stop Trump. He'd remove many of these bad Socialist ideas, free up our domestic energy production, relax unnecessary bureaucratic regulations, cut or eliminate corporate taxes, devolve power out of Washington and back to the States, free up schools from Government and Union controls, and unleash the power of free enterprise and free markets in responding to the people's needs, wants, and desires.

No Socialist program can do all of that as effectively or efficiently but that's all Socialists advocate for...total and complete Government control. That's why they hate Trump, because he's stopping that agenda. It's also why they hate us because we support it.
 

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