Gentleman please stop the emotional responses

[robEERt]

We win this game easily if not for the first two fumbles. Statically this team is doing enough to be 5-0. Calling for the firing of the coach is a little premature. If you look at where we were, and were we have come there is no comparison. We are recruiting much better with these coaches and playing much tougher schedules than ever. The best teams in the nation. I'm not for firing anyone that's emotional reasoning. I can't believe some of you are Mountaineer fans. It makes me believe some of you are either Marshall trolls of Pitt-iful.fans, trying to start trouble. This is a good team and good coaches. I hope AD Lyons is more grounded in fact and reason than some of our emotional fans.
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[wvumountee21]

you must be a fan of the Hail Mary play on 4th and 2

 

[robEERt]

you must be a fan of the Hail Mary play on 4th and 2

Man that wasn't the only play in the game. If that's the only mistake we make the rest of the year it will be amazing.

 

[TruWVblu]

We win this game easily if not for the first two fumbles. Statically this team is doing enough to be 5-0. Calling for the firing of the coach is a little premature. If you look at where we were, and were we have come there is no comparison. We are recruiting much better with these coaches and playing much tougher schedules than ever. The best teams in the nation. I'm not for firing anyone that's emotional reasoning. I can't believe some of you are Mountaineer fans. It makes me believe some of you are either Marshall trolls of Pitt-iful.fans, trying to start trouble. This is a good team and good coaches. I hope AD Lyons is more grounded in fact and reason than some of our emotional fans.
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As I said on another post, you have to find a way to win that game, at home on a Saturday night. What will the excuses be next season?

 

[wvumountee21]

Man that wasn't the only play in the game. If that's the only mistake we make the rest of the year it will be amazing.

oh should I go on? the run up the middle on 3rd and 10, the timeout he didn't call on the biggest play of the game, I can do this all night, for every single game he's coached

 

[torontoeers]

I'm not in the fire him now camp at this juncture but...I think it's entirely reasonable to question some of the decisions and game management from Dana...he has made some mistakes and is not beyond reproach...

 

[MacMountie]

I'm not in the fire him now camp at this juncture but...I think it's entirely reasonable to question some of the decisions and game management from Dana...he has made some mistakes and is not beyond reproach...

Totally agree with you T-eers but of course at times like this it seems most of our fanbase (at least on this board) is not open to being reasonable

 

[wvu7778]

We win this game easily if not for the first two fumbles. Statically this team is doing enough to be 5-0. Calling for the firing of the coach is a little premature. If you look at where we were, and were we have come there is no comparison. We are recruiting much better with these coaches and playing much tougher schedules than ever. The best teams in the nation. I'm not for firing anyone that's emotional reasoning. I can't believe some of you are Mountaineer fans. It makes me believe some of you are either Marshall trolls of Pitt-iful.fans, trying to start trouble. This is a good team and good coaches. I hope AD Lyons is more grounded in fact and reason than some of our emotional fans.
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But, we didn't win and the turnovers are all too common. We didn't score a single offensive point in the first half with a "genius" offensive head coach. According to the players we let them decide which one will be in the backfield despite the fact that one is far superior to the other. And, the superior of the two was on the sidelines in OT. We haven't got a D-1 quarterback that can play, we have lost far more than we've won in conference, one bowl win with another coach's recruits, and some of the most bizarre play calling to be seen--the OT calls defied logic. Our recruiting may be getting better but our play is not. Coaching matters--look around. We don't have a high quality coach. He has demonstrated that he can't beat Big 12 teams on a regular basis--we're best known in the Big 12 for losing to Kansas. In our fifth year of Dana's tenure, the best we can do at QB is Skylar Howard. Our offense has no identity. This is not emotion--this is stating the obvious. DH is NOT a good HC.

 

[skygusty]

I'm not in the fire him now camp at this juncture but...I think it's entirely reasonable to question some of the decisions and game management from Dana...he has made some mistakes and is not beyond reproach...

When was the last time you heard "Holgerson is a fantastic coach who has really turned things around there at WVU, rumor has it that he is under consideration for the head coaching job at ________". I will never be in the fire Holgerson ranks as it is above my paygrade, but fans bitch. It's what we do, well that and celebrate wins in which we took absolutely no part! Hopefully this team has some surprise wins in them because they sure left these last two on the table.

 

[GoWVU]

I'm not in the fire him now camp at this juncture but...I think it's entirely reasonable to question some of the decisions and game management from Dana...he has made some mistakes and is not beyond reproach...

Posts like this are exactly why I've always fully respected toronto's thoughts on the subject even though he has the opposite opinion on Holgorsen that I do. The board needs more like him.

 

[Pushingtin]

Well....I was emotional about WVU football and wanting Holgs fired 2 years ago.....I'm no longer emotional about it as this is what I have expected and have conditioned myself to accept as long as Dana is coach here at WVU. We will beat most teams we are supposed to beat and lose to almost all the others on our schedule. Simple fact is.....Dana just isn't a good head coach

 

[VaultHunter]

Big12 football. So easy anyone can do it

 

[dolemitebmf]

We win this game easily if not for the first two fumbles. Statically this team is doing enough to be 5-0. Calling for the firing of the coach is a little premature. If you look at where we were, and were we have come there is no comparison. We are recruiting much better with these coaches and playing much tougher schedules than ever. The best teams in the nation. I'm not for firing anyone that's emotional reasoning. I can't believe some of you are Mountaineer fans. It makes me believe some of you are either Marshall trolls of Pitt-iful.fans, trying to start trouble. This is a good team and good coaches. I hope AD Lyons is more grounded in fact and reason than some of our emotional fans.
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Too bad Oliver Luck made an emotional decision when he gave Dana the golden parachute...

 

[BeltwayBandit]

We win this game easily if not for the first two fumbles. Statically this team is doing enough to be 5-0. Calling for the firing of the coach is a little premature. If you look at where we were, and were we have come there is no comparison. We are recruiting much better with these coaches and playing much tougher schedules than ever. The best teams in the nation. I'm not for firing anyone that's emotional reasoning. I can't believe some of you are Mountaineer fans. It makes me believe some of you are either Marshall trolls of Pitt-iful.fans, trying to start trouble. This is a good team and good coaches. I hope AD Lyons is more grounded in fact and reason than some of our emotional fans.
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Says the guy who spends all day every day spouting off emotional crap on the politics board.

 

[torontoeers]

Posts like this are exactly why I've always fully respected toronto's thoughts on the subject even though he has the opposite opinion on Holgorsen that I do. The board needs more like him.

Thanks for the kind words Go...I'll admit I was full of emotions both during and immediately following the game...this was one we needed and against a team I thought was definitely beatable on our turf...the team fought back admirably after a first half filled with mistakes. Dana was angry throughout the half and rightfully so...to see some of the decisions made late in the game and in OT left me disappointed to say the least... perhaps I missed some of the post game presser but I did not see Dana own up to any of the loss in post game comments ...if he didn't then that is disturbing imo...

 

[wbgvwbgv]

Big12 football. So easy anyone can do it

LOL. Especially the army of armchair coaches on this site.

 

[wvu7778]

Big12 football. So easy anyone can do it

Apparently Dana can't. You have to decide if you want the best chance to succeed or are willing to follow in the footsteps of Texas Tech, Iowa St. and to a lesser degree, Kansas. There is nothing that Dana has shown that indicates that he or his teams are improving. He is a master of grasping defeat from the jaws of victory. Does Dana really represent our best chance to succeed in the Big 12? If you believe that then WVU is in for some very tough times.

 

[TruWVblu]

We win this game easily if not for the first two fumbles. Statically this team is doing enough to be 5-0. Calling for the firing of the coach is a little premature. If you look at where we were, and were we have come there is no comparison. We are recruiting much better with these coaches and playing much tougher schedules than ever. The best teams in the nation. I'm not for firing anyone that's emotional reasoning. I can't believe some of you are Mountaineer fans. It makes me believe some of you are either Marshall trolls of Pitt-iful.fans, trying to start trouble. This is a good team and good coaches. I hope AD Lyons is more grounded in fact and reason than some of our emotional fans.
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Dont

We win this game easily if not for the first two fumbles. Statically this team is doing enough to be 5-0. Calling for the firing of the coach is a little premature. If you look at where we were, and were we have come there is no comparison. We are recruiting much better with these coaches and playing much tougher schedules than ever. The best teams in the nation. I'm not for firing anyone that's emotional reasoning. I can't believe some of you are Mountaineer fans. It makes me believe some of you are either Marshall trolls of Pitt-iful.fans, trying to start trouble. This is a good team and good coaches. I hope AD Lyons is more grounded in fact and reason than some of our emotional fans.
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Don't worry. If things continue, things will get less and less emotional where the program is concerned. I personally do not want to see that.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

Let's look at it unemotionally and logically.

WVU lost to 2 unbeaten, top 25 teams in succession, but was in the game in the 4th quarter against the Sooners and went into overtime with the Cowboys.

So that's not good enough? WVU lost. So did a lot of other teams.

Baylor and TCU are next line, and better than Oklahoma and Oklahoma State, so if you can't handle what happens then maybe you should take a 2-week vacation in Tahiti and chill out.

Notre Dame and Ohio State would have trouble going 4-0 against WVU's October Octopus Onslaught (see, I did warn everyone well in advance what we were heading into).

If WVU doesn't win at least 4 of its final 5 games of the regular season, then maybe we can form a Chicken Little Club. Texas Tech, Texas, Kansas, Iowa State and Kansas State should be a LOT easier to beat than Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Baylor and TCU.

I doubt anyone with an IQ above 60 could argue with that.


M ighty defense throttled Georgia Southern, 44-0

O utstanding defense obliterated Liberty, 41-17

U nilaterally decimated Maryland, 45-6, on defense and offense

N oxious offense & special teams against Oklahoma, 44-24

T oo many costly mistakes against Oklahoma State, 33-26 in OT. Impressive comeback from 15-point deficit.

A mbush Baylor

I mmolate TCU

N ail Texas Tech

E rectile dysfunction Texas

E viscerate Kansas

R ip open a new one for Iowa State

S kewer Kansas State

 

[HurdyGurdyEer]

Asking WVU fans to drop the emotional responses is like asking a fish to quit swimming in water.
LINKYLINK in case you have forgotten.

 

[bamaEER]

We win this game easily if not for the first two fumbles. Statically this team is doing enough to be 5-0. Calling for the firing of the coach is a little premature. If you look at where we were, and were we have come there is no comparison. We are recruiting much better with these coaches and playing much tougher schedules than ever. The best teams in the nation. I'm not for firing anyone that's emotional reasoning. I can't believe some of you are Mountaineer fans. It makes me believe some of you are either Marshall trolls of Pitt-iful.fans, trying to start trouble. This is a good team and good coaches. I hope AD Lyons is more grounded in fact and reason than some of our emotional fans.
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Two losses into any season you'll see the bandwagon jumpers swarming this place.

 

[Atreides]

Actually, I've been paying attention to those losses for awhile....annually since Holgerson was hired...Don't think we need a review. I'm not a bandwagon rider. I liked DH initially....it took a few home blowouts and the Pinstripe Debacle....to convince me otherwise. I resally hope you folks are Right. I hope he defies all the doomsayers including me, and wins five more games, starting with putting a scare into Baylor Saturday. I don't like the man, but if he wins and gets things going again...I'll be Thrilled. If he is as bad however as I fear, those five won't happen no matter how many arguments and accusations continue on this board. BTW...one of those "two losses" was to a team we Shoulda coulda woulda Beat....We needed Oklahoma State to start to get those five more wins....Losing sets us back....and losing to them pissed a lot of people off....people who are concerned are not looking for trouble, just wanting WINS and no more Excuses and Rationalizations.

 

[5150]

When was the last time you heard "Holgerson is a fantastic coach who has really turned things around there at WVU, rumor has it that he is under consideration for the head coaching job at ________". I will never be in the fire Holgerson ranks as it is above my paygrade, but fans bitch. It's what we do, well that and celebrate wins in which we took absolutely no part! Hopefully this team has some surprise wins in them because they sure left these last two on the table.

A lot of anti Stew guys didn't like him because he was not being considered for other jobs.

 

[skygusty]

A lot of anti Stew guys didn't like him because he was not being considered for other jobs.

That water is so far under the bridge that it was made into beer in Pittsburgh, pissed into a urinal in Ohio, flowed into a river in WV, evaporated into a cloud over New York, fell as rain in Vermont, watered a tomato patch in New Hampshire, was consumed by a moose in Maine, became moose piss which washed into the Atlantic, coursed through the blood streams of several pelagic fish, fell as blood in a fishery in Japan, was washed into the Pacific Ocean where it was evaporated once again, only to NOT fall in California, but instead in Colorado, where it became part of Coors Beer which was shipped by rail to the same bar in Pittsburgh where it was consumed before. Please, let the guy rest in peace.