Football Final Four is set

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

unless conference title games foul up the works.

Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma and Michigan State/Iowa winner (probably Spartans) will be in the national playoffs.

Again, unless the conference championship games screw everything up.

See, the Big 12 does NOT need a championship game to make the Football Final Four.

Hell, conference titles games could knock Clemson, Alabama and Michigan State or Iowa out of it.

Big 12 does it the only way it should be done: Everyone plays everyone else.

Then you don’t have an Iowa in the conference title game without playing the 3 best teams in the Big 10 (4 if you count the Hawkeyes).

 

[WB67hawk]

Well Iowa just beat Nebraska and Nebraska beat Michigan State and Michigan State beat Ohio State so you may be a tad off .

 

[WiiWii]

Well Iowa just beat Nebraska and Nebraska beat Michigan State and Michigan State beat Ohio State so you may be a tad off .

I love these arguments. It was BS when Nehlen tried it and it is BS now.

 

[The Hunteeeeeer]

Iowa is very good however they didn't play Michigan, OSU, or MSU, struggled to beat an average Pitt team at home and only beat Maryland 31-15. You like comparative scores, WVU led Maryland 38-0 at the half and we are middle of the road Big 12.

 

[EnginEER 89]

unless conference title games foul up the works.

Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma and Michigan State/Iowa winner (probably Spartans) will be in the national playoffs.

Again, unless the conference championship games screw everything up.

See, the Big 12 does NOT need a championship game to make the Football Final Four.

Hell, conference titles games could knock Clemson, Alabama and Michigan State or Iowa out of it.

Big 12 does it the only way it should be done: Everyone plays everyone else.

Then you don’t have an Iowa in the conference title game without playing the 3 best teams in the Big 10 (4 if you count the Hawkeyes).

I agree about the current Big 12 system. It is best for both football and basketball.

The question for the talking heads this week will be 'who gets in if Clemson loses to unc (possible) or Alabama loses to florida (highly unlikely). Stanford (unless they lose to usc) or ohio state? Or someone else?

Lgm!

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

Being a contrarian, I still hope that UF beats Bama and UNC beats Clemson. The quickest way to an 8 team playoff is when we have teams that cannot really be fairly distinguished from the competition chosen over othersfor highly debatable reasons.

Yeah, if Bama wins the SEC and Clemson the ACC there is really little anyone can cmplin about if the final 4 is Clemson. Bama, Iowa/MSU and Oklahoma. But with upsets, yo could have say:

Oklahoma (11-1) and MSU (12-1) in, and you could have:

conference champions:

UNC (12-1)
Stanford (11-2)
Florida (11-2)

and non-champs:

Ohio St. (11-1)
Iowa (12-1)
Clemson (12-1)
Bama (11-2)
ND (10-2)

all with, greater or lesser, but arguable claims to just 2 spots

UNC would be the only 1 loss conference champion among that group and have finished with 12 wins in a row, but, how many think they are one of the 4 best teams. Stanford and Florida would be champs but each has 2 losses and late ones. Bama would have 2 losses and a late one and no title. Iowa would have no signature win. OSU is not a champ, lost late and putting it in would mean 2 Big 10 teams. Both of ND's losses were to good teams but one of them was the finale and it beat no one really good. Iowa would probably have the weakest resume even with just 1 loss.

Were it me, I'd pick UNC for the record, the championship and knocking off #1 in the last game, because they "earned" it even though I doubt they really are one of the 4 best. After that, it would be just arbitrary really. If 2 loss ND got picked over three 1 loss Power 5 teams and two conference champs (one of which beat it head-to-head) it would be a complete travesty.

I think OSU and Stanford would have the strongest claim but which is better, only 1 loss or a conference title?

 

[mountiefan88]

UNC is going to be dangerous. Clemson will have their hands full.