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In fairness this is not remotely close to the team they had a few weeks ago. 23 players opting out 7 of 11 on defense compared to only 2 players for Georgia.
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Always with excuses of not the same team. BS...
Georgia would have kicked their ass no matter who they had.
Georgia would have kicked their ass no matter who they had.
At least the university has saved money by not having to pay for the "2023 Undefeated National Champions" sign for next year.
That's probably what TCU thought as well.
It's still football and making an excuse you lost because a player opted out is just lame. Your a P5 team that claims they should be in playoffs yet your back ups can't compete?
I just read Kirby Smart's comments on it. He wants the NCAA to change things. Florida State was down 29 scholarship players for this bowl game. Their top 2 QB's (one injured), top 2 RB's, top 2 WR's, top DL, top LB's, etc. Don't care who you are, that's not going to end well.
If that is fairness, then it was also fair for the committee to leave them out of the playoffs since their star QB was out for the season and their offense sucked. It is also fair to call the ones opting out quitters since that's what they are and quitters shouldn't be in the playoffs. Good call, committee.
F$U also had top 25 recruiting classes the past 5 years so it wasn't like their backups weren't highly regarded.
At the end of the day, we won't really know how good FSU was at their peak. You can call the players that opt out quitters, but they are just looking out for their financial future. They aren't looking to take any risks in a game that doesn't mean anything. Wvu has had its quitters over the years as well. Jennings and Grier come to mind. I'm sure it was a boon for Syracuse not having to see them. It was a net benefit for Wvu in this year's bowl game facing a North Carolina team with bunch of quitters. We had players that were gone as well but nothing like they lost.
I'd bet my last dollar that they won't even come close to having 20 players sign NFL contracts..my guess is five...to make it you have to take a someone's job ..good luck with that
The quitters are always hypocrites because they WOULD be playing if their respective teams made the playoffs.
You play who have. Continue making excuses and you look even more like whiny team.
Ok. Funny though. Your remarks about "crying" considering how much you bitched and moaned about the NCAA when it came to the WVU basketball situation with Battle, Farrakhan, and Kerr.
Big difference between sitting out and not being allowed to play.
Take your stalking someplace else.
Try understanding their complaints first. It was a lot about allowing transfer portal before your bowl games.
Are you “stalking” when you reply?
Smh. That’s like expecting Adam Bednarik to beat Louisville in 2005 without Pat White.
Was the WVU game vs Loserville a bowl game with players opting out? That's what I thought.
Adam Bednarik was not a bad QB. Yet WVU fans love to hate their own. People give far too much credit to coaches when he didn't even start Pat white. There was no guarantee Pat White was going to come back on Loserville. They made some plays and got the onside kick in regulation. Then took 3 OT in a half empty stadium because Mountaineer fans don't like hanging around to watch a loss. I stayed and laughed the ones trying to get back in. It was hilarious. No dedication from bandwagon fans.
Pat White was a freshman in that game. You can win with freshman.
Or expecting Jack Allison or Trey Lowe to keep pace with OU in 2018 instead of Will Grier. A single player can be a huge part of whether a team is good or not. But losing by 60 points isn't something you should expect no matter who you lost if you want to be considered as being on the same level as UGA and other playoff worthy teams. I know FSU was undefeated and can only beat who is on their schedule, but they beat no one and the only "good teams" they played were teams ranked in the ACC by beating up on other ACC garbage teams.
Pat only got to take over that game because Bednarik was hurt. It is a classic example of why practice is not always the whole story and why if the best player in practice *cough* Doege *cough* is consistently underperforming on game day, the next man up may deserve a try. Usually it will go just as badly with the next man up, but there are times when it doesn't hurt to try. Slaton also was buried on that depth chart at 4 to start the season and only was a starter at that point because Colson, Pernell, and one other person were either hurt or ineffective against VT and Slaton looked like a world beater in that loss. Both guys made the most of the opportunity given.
Steve Slaton was limited in spring drills after wrist surgery but used that time to really study the game.
Slaton played in 10 games in 2005. Why Rich didn't start him or White all season is anybody's guess. Maybe he thought Bednarik was his best chance to win which it was until his last injury. Va. Tech was the only loss that year.
One thing Rod did right was to make sure his future stars were prepared. And it showed in that UL game.
As far as Doege he was always being pounded because the OL sucked. The worst OL in WVU history for 2 years. That and he wore concrete shoes.
I think the fact that Colson did his time behind Quincy and Harris along with being a competent enough back when he got to play was the reason he was given the starting job. Pernell was similar in that he had been competent in the few carries given to him which is why he was primary back up and freshman Slaton was an unknown. But in that VT game he showed out and proved to have something those other guys just did not have. Holes those other backs could get 3-15 yards with Slaton was getting 10 - the house with.
I think RR really wanted Bednarik to pass more and move away from what Rasheed's passing limitations kind of forced the offense into from 2002-2004. But the revelation of Slaton in the VT game and then how much better he was when Pat White had to be accounted for in that Louisville was undeniable.
Maybe that was the case. In practice White was being expected to throw more and doing so with less impressive backs. But once he was free to play his game because there was no Bednarik waiting to take his place if he deviated from RR's script against Louisville and Slaton was there to make it easier to RPO, a special combination became apparent that the coaching staff couldn't conceive in practice.
I think the fact that Colson did his time behind Quincy and Harris along with being a competent enough back when he got to play was the reason he was given the starting job. Pernell was similar in that he had been competent in the few carries given to him which is why he was primary back up and freshman Slaton was an unknown. But in that VT game he showed out and proved to have something those other guys just did not have. Holes those other backs could get 3-15 yards with Slaton was getting 10 - the house with.
I think RR really wanted Bednarik to pass more and move away from what Rasheed's passing limitations kind of forced the offense into from 2002-2004. But the revelation of Slaton in the VT game and then how much better he was when Pat White had to be accounted for in that Louisville was undeniable.
Maybe that was the case. In practice White was being expected to throw more and doing so with less impressive backs. But once he was free to play his game because there was no Bednarik waiting to take his place if he deviated from RR's script against Louisville and Slaton was there to make it easier to RPO, a special combination became apparent that the coaching staff couldn't conceive in practice
Florida State will be bolting to the Big XII before long. Doubt they'll go to B1G, and Florida will probably try to keep them out of the SEC.
lol obviously this went over your head. The point is, key players not playing definitely is a valid excuse. You were trying to argue 2nd, 3rd and 4th stringers should’ve been able to play with Georgia and is no excuse to lose. Yet, when confronted with a real example with Bednarik and White, you’re blabbering all over the place about coaches not playing the right players and fans not sticking the game out. Bednarik was getting blown out. Enter White, and WVU comes back and wins.
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Aren't you a ****ing genius. Bednarik got injured Pat white played well WVU had to get the onside kick to have a chance to tie. Without that kick game is over. Many said it was illegal due to players hitting the man when ball was in the air. Some say it hit the ground and went up some say it was all air. So it wasn't just Pat white or his coaching staff. It was the team. Get your facts right. Pretty sure Slaton was star of the game in that one. What makes you think 3rd stringers besides the QB were playing in the game? Take your blabbering comments and shove them up your ass. It's always an attack from you trolls. Never anything more.
But without Pat, WVU loses to Louisville 24-7 or maybe 31-7 at worst. That is a far cry from 63-3. FSU loses badly to Georgia even at full strength. Not likely this bad, but still a decisive victory for the Bulldogs. And that is the point which was FSU was far behind not only the 4 playoff teams but also UGA and tOSU. The playoff committee was 100% justified in not includung them. Honestly all the players opting out is the best thing for them since they can use it as a shield, because had FSU lost 48-17 with their active roster from the ACC championship game, they'd have no more room to whine.
