If they took somebody on the West Coast (who is available) it would be a disservice to just about every member in the conference. They can take the sensitivities of WVU into play all they want in public announcements, but we are the tail, not the dog.
Yep much easier to follow than what he used to do on BLUE GOLD, where a new thread was added every day
And yet you bozos created 500 plus threads on Holgorsen... and try to derail every thread anyone makes about anything. Guess its difficult when you have no thoughts in your head and see someone else does.
There is nothing untrue about it. First, for Boren to bring up the West Coast is a strawman argument. Nobody is proposing adding any West Coast team, nobody. Even Boren knows this statement is hyperbole and misdirection. Second, I doubt any team in the BIG12 would want to add a West Coast team two time zones away, especially because the only likely team would be San Diego State. Third, saying that adding a West Coast team would be a disservice to WVU leaves a whole lot of territory in the middle of the country for wiggle room with that misleading statement. There are several teams that would favor most members of the conference more than east coast teams as far as travel time and potential rivalries, and they have demonstrated that TV sets are not at the top of their list or they would have added any number of teams before WVU. Fourth. WVU is indeed the tip of the tail of the dog no matter what anyone says. As longtime members, Iowa State, Kansas and Kansas State have as much if not more pull than WVU. It is obvious to everyone with a pulse that our flagship schools have to continue to be perceived as flagship schools. Everyone gung ho for expansion could be surprised what they do if they ever really have to go into a closed room and start inviting teams. If BYU is added then Colorado State would get my vote as the 12th team if I am any school other than WVU.
Sun Belt has a new member in Coastal Carolina - making 12 members. So they can have their championship game probably in 2017 or 18.
Indeed why create another outlier in the east, if it comes to that. There has been a lot of "WVU" has been a good member" talk. While that is probably true, is it not also true to say that Iowa State has been a good member, or Kansas State, or Kansas? I am a little cynical I guess. This sounds to me like "Yes we were very sensitive of WVU's position and gave it a lot of thought before we made our decision" in preparation for doing something entirely different. I would not rule Colorado State out and they would not be an outlier. Brings a Colorado school back in the Big12, recent stadium expansion, bridge state to BYU, we already have state schools from Iowa, Kansas and Oklahoma, Denver TV audience is ranked at around the 17th largest, I can see them getting some votes from the plains schools. Nice state to visit too and brings back the John Denver bowl.
This from a recent CBS sports article by Jon Solomon on 1/10/16 on this weeks vote, expansion, CCG etc.
Excerpt:
Jon Solomon
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Will NCAA vote force Big 12 to expand for conference title game?
January 10, 2016 3:52 pm ET
The Big 12 has a composition committee of university presidents exploring the possibility of expansion. The Big 12 hasn't taken any steps to expand, Bowlsby said. BYU and Cincinnati have been mentioned as possible expansion candidates.
Bowlsby said the Big 12 could go to two, five-team divisions as the Big Ten proposal would require. But the Big 12 wants to avoid that because its two best teams could be on one side of the division.
“What would have been the best matchup was already played within divisional play,” Bowlsby said of such a scenario. “I'm not convinced that a full round robin isn't the most viable and most reliable way to determine your champion.
“Theoretically, we could go to fewer games. We have a nine-game requirement in our contracts with Fox and ESPN, but theoretically, we could renegotiate those and go to an eight-game schedule that might give us more flexibility. We just need to see all the pieces of the puzzle and then thoughtfully go through what it is we want it to look like once we know the rules.”
Bowlsby said the conference's 2016 schedule was created with flexibility to play a championship game if the NCAA vote goes the Big 12's way, though it's also possible a Big 12 Championship Game might not return until 2017. The Big 12 hasn't had conversations with potential host cities, but Bowlsby said Houston, San Antonio, Dallas or Kansas City would be his guess if the game returns.
“My sense is [Big 12 presidents and athletic directors] like the money that comes with a championship game, and there's some belief that we are always going to have the issue of a 13th data point disadvantaging us with the [College Football Playoff] committee,” Bowlsby said. “Some years we're going to wish we have one more game and others we won't. I don't think that's going away so we have to acknowledge we're at some level of disadvantage by not playing the 13th game.”
Definitely better for WVU if the BIG12 comes east. I'm not really sure how the rest of the league views it. BYU is still at the top of many lists that I see, which is awful for us. Cincinnati is usually listed second. Some places have UCONN and Colorado State vying for the 3rd place. The next month will reveal whether the conference has to hold its nose and pick 2 more schools and we discover who really has the votes.
I can't disagree with Bowlsby on that. It seems odd having a 2 division, 10 team, round robin.
Texas and Oklahoma will not be in the same division but they will be a permanent cross over game.
I have seen several posts indicating this is what is going to happen, but I don't think I have ever seen any thing from Bowlsby or the Big12 indicating how they are thinking about splitting the divisions. I guess this is somewhat dependent on who the expansion teams might end up being. Is there a link to a statement in this regard from an official source?
