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It really didn't disappear before... ...or you wouldn't have been able to print it.
No, it was just hiding in the bushes and I had to find it! I certainly 'beat the bushes' for an hour to locate it. The Big 12 GOR can be had also. It does not matter what or where the Big 12 is located, a WV government entity signed and agreed to it, therefore it is subject to a FOIA request. Someone in Oklahoma already received it and instead of publishing it verbatim, gave an 'overview'. I do not like overviews, I want the little details.
I can't tell, is this the 1st agreement or the final agreement that came about after WVU redid the RFP?
The final, the one upheld by the court. No one asked, but here is an 'overview' of the Big 12 GOR taken from the agreement as provided to an OU FOIA:
Big 12 Grant of Rights overview:
* The agreement is a signed addendum by member schools dated July 1, 2012 to the television agreement made with the Big 12, ESPN and FOX. The agreement lasts through June 30, 2025
* All prospective members of the league must agree to sign and be added to the addendum as a condition of membership
* The Grant of Rights does not transfer ownership of rights, but rather grants rights to the league to fulfill the television contract for the duration of the agreement. It does, however, give the league ownership/copyright of an audiovisual reproduction
* The league is granted rights to all games present and future that are currently given to television partners, which constitutes home football and basketball games, excepting certain third tier games ("retained rights"). The school, even if it elects to leave the Big 12 conference, will continue to have its "retained rights" meaning that any game not exercised by television partners, would revert back to the school (to presumably be contracted back to a new league).
* This means that essentially the league retains all future tier-1 rights through 2025 of home contests, except the existing rights the schools have to broadcast one home football game and select home basketball games.
* There is no exit fee or buyout specifically stated in the addendum
* Additionally, the institution retains all rights and ownership to ancillary programming
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Thanks for the court documents for the WVU IMG situation--will look it over.
The Oklahoma document is a phony document however, this was posted several years back by someone from another conference.
The Oklahoma document is a phony document however, this was posted several years back by someone from another conference.
I didn't think much of the OU overview either. I just shared it as I found it out of sport! The GOR that WVU signed would be available under FOIA though.
No GORs are available via FOIA requests, they are embedded in the tv contracts. No public access.
Thanks for the great summary, the only thing I would change is it should include all tier-1 and 2 rights, except for 1 football and a few BB games
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I believe anything WVU signs and agrees to with a financial impact on the school could be had. At least the addendum with the stipulations directly affecting WVU. You wouldn't get the agreements between the conference and networks, of course. I would be very surprised if a judge allowed WVU's commitment to remain private.
Buck, having fully read the contents, I believe this to be an accurate representation of the Big 12 GOR. I will defer to yours and others' expertise if you spot a red herring. Big 12 GOR
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Yep, I was right. As the other poster's find showed, it's an agreement between the conferences and the schools, not the schools and the networks. As someone else pointed out, the networks paid more for the conference having a GOR, but the GOR itself is between the schools and the conference.
The other poster's link is not fake either. You just say that because you don't like the fact that it contradicts your point.
The BIG 12s gor is not the document that is posted above and has only appeared on message boards. It was created by a fan of another conference and has never appeared in any news article or mainstream media. For anyone that believes its real, I challenge you to provide the ACC grant of rights, the Big Ten grant of rights and the Pac 12 grant of rights agreements. If as you want to believe they are subject to FOIA release, then nothing should stop any of you from easily getting those from your school of choice.
The Grants of Rights are embedded in the television contracts (and they and the tv contracts aren't subject to FOIA requests):
excerpt from Forbes discussing the tv deal:
Furthermore, a grant of rights agreement embedded into the deal offers added stability. This agreement means that if a Big 12 school leaves for another league in the next 13 years, that school’s media rights and revenues would remain with the Big 12 and not its new conference.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/prishe/...g-12s-new-tv-deal-with-espn-fox/#1146012e7489
This is necessary because not only are the gors protecting the conferences, they are protecting the value of the tv contracts the tv partners pay. The television partners are the ones delivering the money to the conference rather than directly to the schools. The BIG 12 (and probably SEC also) have a grant of rights for the Sugar Bowl as well-signed to guarantee the $40 million per year to the league when its not a playoff rotation.
Here's an interesting article from the time when the ACC convinced FSU to sign a GOR just for an FYI of the lengths these conferences sometimes go through to avoid "sunshine" laws--
excerpt:
The ACC had added Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Louisville and Notre Dame (as a partial member). The Big East was imploding, and rumors were circulating nonstop that FSU was being courted by the Big 12, Big Ten or SEC.
Barron knew his trustees were hearing it from various stakeholders on a daily basis. He understood they had questions and concerns.
Rather than try to provide answers himself, Barron decided it might be better if Swofford could update the board personally and clarify the many misconceptions circulating on Internet blogs and message boards.
Swofford was happy to oblige. But instead of attending the public workshop in St. Teresa, he and Jordan opted to meet one-on-one with any trustees who might be interested the day before, March 6, at FSU's Turnbull Center. By meeting individually, those discussions were kept private, legally circumventing the state's sunshine laws.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...obbies-florida-state-grant-of-rights/2113527/
The Grants of Rights are embedded in the television contracts (and they and the tv contracts aren't subject to FOIA requests):
excerpt from Forbes discussing the tv deal:
Furthermore, a grant of rights agreement embedded into the deal offers added stability. This agreement means that if a Big 12 school leaves for another league in the next 13 years, that school’s media rights and revenues would remain with the Big 12 and not its new conference.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/prishe/...g-12s-new-tv-deal-with-espn-fox/#1146012e7489
This is necessary because not only are the gors protecting the conferences, they are protecting the value of the tv contracts the tv partners pay. The television partners are the ones delivering the money to the conference rather than directly to the schools. The BIG 12 (and probably SEC also) have a grant of rights for the Sugar Bowl as well-signed to guarantee the $40 million per year to the league when its not a playoff rotation.
Here's an interesting article from the time when the ACC convinced FSU to sign a GOR just for an FYI of the lengths these conferences sometimes go through to avoid "sunshine" laws--
excerpt:
The ACC had added Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Louisville and Notre Dame (as a partial member). The Big East was imploding, and rumors were circulating nonstop that FSU was being courted by the Big 12, Big Ten or SEC.
Barron knew his trustees were hearing it from various stakeholders on a daily basis. He understood they had questions and concerns.
Rather than try to provide answers himself, Barron decided it might be better if Swofford could update the board personally and clarify the many misconceptions circulating on Internet blogs and message boards.
Swofford was happy to oblige. But instead of attending the public workshop in St. Teresa, he and Jordan opted to meet one-on-one with any trustees who might be interested the day before, March 6, at FSU's Turnbull Center. By meeting individually, those discussions were kept private, legally circumventing the state's sunshine laws.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...obbies-florida-state-grant-of-rights/2113527/
Directly from the BIG 12 back when the conference created its original grant of rights --the BIG 12 board of Directors (within the Delaware Corporation called the BIG 12) agreed to a formal granting of rights, and then sent legal documents to the institutions for execution.
excerpt:
Big 12 Board Of Directors Action
October 06, 2011
The Big 12 Conference Board of Directors agreed to a formal grant of television rights for a minimum of six years during a teleconference today. The approval by the Board was unanimous; however the University of Missouri did not participate in the vote on the advice of legal counsel.
Interim commissioner Chuck Neinas was authorized by the Board to immediately distribute legal documents for institutional execution.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205311928
excerpt:
Big 12 Board Of Directors Action
October 06, 2011
The Big 12 Conference Board of Directors agreed to a formal grant of television rights for a minimum of six years during a teleconference today. The approval by the Board was unanimous; however the University of Missouri did not participate in the vote on the advice of legal counsel.
Interim commissioner Chuck Neinas was authorized by the Board to immediately distribute legal documents for institutional execution.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205311928
It doesn't help WV initially, but the Big 12 should offer UNLV (continent upon building a new stadium) and BYU. Both would jump at the chance. The new stadium would be shared with a Pro Football Team, so it would be a top notch facility. Clark County (Las Vegas) has a population of 2.1M, with 45M annual visitors; the 5th largest school district with 72 High Schools; Bishop Gorman Football and Basketball and Findlay Prep Basketball. In addition, there is a Mormon Temple and a large LDS community in Vegas with a strong Utah connection. UNLV football and it's facilities suck and most all their great athletes go to the Pac 12. It wouldn't take very long for the football program to be top 25. It's going to happen eventually, I think the Big 12 could make a smart play here.
Besides, a Bowl Game in Vegas, how bad can that be?
BYU with a Big 12 connection would be a great contender for top athletes from Utah, NV, AZ, CA and Hawaii along with others. The non-scheduling on Sundays could be worked out.
After this, convert all schools to a Big 12 Network (not sure how to handle Texas) and go after FSU and some eastern schools and get to 14 then 16 teams.
Besides, a Bowl Game in Vegas, how bad can that be?
BYU with a Big 12 connection would be a great contender for top athletes from Utah, NV, AZ, CA and Hawaii along with others. The non-scheduling on Sundays could be worked out.
After this, convert all schools to a Big 12 Network (not sure how to handle Texas) and go after FSU and some eastern schools and get to 14 then 16 teams.
And this from Iowa State when the new tv deal was done and the six year grant of rights was extended to 13 years:
excerpt:
The deal, which is with ABC/ESPN and FOX, reportedly will pay the conference an average of $200 million per year and run through the 2024-25 school year. That money will be divided equally amongst the Big 12 institutions, paying each school $20 million per year.
"The stability of the Big 12 Conference is cemented," said Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby in a news release. "We are positioned with one of the best media rights arrangements in collegiate sports, providing the conference and its members unprecedented revenue growth, and sports programming over two networks."
Aside from the money, the big agreement which the Big 12's board of directors voted to approve Friday morning is a grant of rights. The grant of rights assures the conference that if any institution leaves within the next 13 years, their media rights and all revenue would remain with the Big 12 and not their new conference.
ISU athletic director Jamie Pollard said the new media rights deal shows the conference's stability, adding it will allow Iowa State to continue to grow.
http://www.iowastatedaily.com/sports/article_e0294de0-f89b-11e1-b0d5-001a4bcf887a.html
http://www.iowastatedaily.com/sports/article_e0294de0-f89b-11e1-b0d5-001a4bcf887a.html
excerpt:
The deal, which is with ABC/ESPN and FOX, reportedly will pay the conference an average of $200 million per year and run through the 2024-25 school year. That money will be divided equally amongst the Big 12 institutions, paying each school $20 million per year.
"The stability of the Big 12 Conference is cemented," said Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby in a news release. "We are positioned with one of the best media rights arrangements in collegiate sports, providing the conference and its members unprecedented revenue growth, and sports programming over two networks."
Aside from the money, the big agreement which the Big 12's board of directors voted to approve Friday morning is a grant of rights. The grant of rights assures the conference that if any institution leaves within the next 13 years, their media rights and all revenue would remain with the Big 12 and not their new conference.
ISU athletic director Jamie Pollard said the new media rights deal shows the conference's stability, adding it will allow Iowa State to continue to grow.
http://www.iowastatedaily.com/sports/article_e0294de0-f89b-11e1-b0d5-001a4bcf887a.html
http://www.iowastatedaily.com/sports/article_e0294de0-f89b-11e1-b0d5-001a4bcf887a.html
Can't see much value to UNLV. BYU is considered to be a candidate in some circles, but with their own network that may present problems of its own much like the LHN--how to merge that into a league wide network. On top of that you have travel issues and problems with Sunday play, and BYU previously demanded certain rights to rebroadcast games.
If all those issues with BYU could be worked out they could be a candidate, but a school like UConn being a state flagship located partly in the largest media market in the world and with their own media rights agreements in NYC, plus multiple national championships in basketball (M and W) may trump what BYU could bring. Connecticut delvers well over 1 million cable subscribers in state while Utah doesn't approach that.
Football BYU is usually better, but better football may be down the list of needs as compared to academics and markets (although academically BYU is good and they may have lots of potential for a network if their BYU tv could be merged). The analysts will present the comparison on all those items.
Directly from the BIG 12 back when the conference created its original grant of rights --the BIG 12 board of Directors (within the Delaware Corporation called the BIG 12) agreed to a formal granting of rights, and then sent legal documents to the institutions for execution.
excerpt:
Big 12 Board Of Directors Action
October 06, 2011
The Big 12 Conference Board of Directors agreed to a formal grant of television rights for a minimum of six years during a teleconference today. The approval by the Board was unanimous; however the University of Missouri did not participate in the vote on the advice of legal counsel.
Interim commissioner Chuck Neinas was authorized by the Board to immediately distribute legal documents for institutional execution.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205311928
I see nothing that detracts from the authenticity of the posted Big 12 GOR. If nothing else, that would be hours of work to create a false document that is so close to what we all believe it we be ludicrous to publish with a couple of changes.
As a Delaware corporation, the Big 12 can exempt any and all dealings with broadcast networks and others for financial or any other agreements from FOIA requests that WVU does not have to consent to.
I know that the section of the Big 12 GOR that WVU agreed to is public information by law. No public institution may enter into 'secret deals' with anyone when it involves the receipt of or expenditure of funds except in the case of an anonymous donor. The broadcast rights of WVU athletics has a monetary value that cannot be secretly given or traded away.
Many of the members here can file a FOIA request and receive the same document I linked to. I can't, I have no legal standing as a resident of South Carolina. Thanks in part to WV Civil Action No. 13 - C- 468, all financial transactions and agreements entered into by WVU are public record. No disrespect, Buck, but we disagree on this one.
If "the section of the Big 12 GOR that WVU agreed to is public information by law." Then let's see it, should be easy to get shouldn't it? Again, let's see the ACC's--you say you live in SC--should be easy to get theirs. Let's see the Big Ten's, let's see the Pac 12s. All should be easily obtainable according to you and others--the BIG 12 isn't the only conference with a grant of rights.
Will be eagerly awaiting the results. We can start first with the ACC's since you live in South Carolina......
One more thing. A GOR between the members of a conference and any broadcast entity would do nothing to solidify the strength of the conference. The same networks own the broadcast rights to nearly all of the power 5 conferences. If the GOR was between the schools and broadcasters, why would they care who moved where? To have any meaning at all, individual schools have to 'sell' their tier I and II rights to the conference in exchange for a percentage of conference broadcast income as a member.
That not only ties the school to the conference, it allows the conference to then privately enter into monetary deals with broadcasters that it deems most profitable. They are essentially telling each school, you get your share of whatever profits we can generate as long as you remain in this conference. If you leave, you get no share while we retain your broadcast revenue as agreed in the GOR. Otherwise a GOR is meaningless.
That not only ties the school to the conference, it allows the conference to then privately enter into monetary deals with broadcasters that it deems most profitable. They are essentially telling each school, you get your share of whatever profits we can generate as long as you remain in this conference. If you leave, you get no share while we retain your broadcast revenue as agreed in the GOR. Otherwise a GOR is meaningless.
We may have a deal here. If you live in WV, you're on! I will file a FOIA request early next week for the Clemson/ACC GOR. But you have to hold up your end, my friend.
The networks signed agreements with each of the conferences. In those agreements they are legally contractually obligated to pay a certain amount of money over a certain period of time to those conferences.
If instead of paying the money to conference A, they paid it to conference B--they would be breaking the contract they made with conference A and effectively voiding it --leaving conference A free to move to another partner and sign a new deal. They would also open themselves to lawsuits for failing to meet terms of the contract.
No network is going to expose themselves to that sort of legal trouble, or risk voiding rights agreements with conferences which could then benefit their competition.
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I agree with that, sort of! But the GOR is between the conference and the school.
"Can't see much value to UNLV." ? Really? You probably didn't see any value in buying Apple or Tesla stock either? I thought this was all about top tier academics, athletics and especially $$$$$. I don't really care if UNLV is in the Big 12 or not, other than to see WV games more often, but 6-10 years from now, outsiders will be saying we should have invited UNLV to our conference. BYU was just a side note. I agree with Connecticut. Always wondered why they didn't get picked up yet by someone.
Only regarding UConn: They seem to consider football as a necessary evil. Other than basketball of course, the Big 12 is a football centric conference.
Found this re: WVU Board of governors FOIA requests:
http://bog.wvu.edu/files/d/7c4f85dd...64a5/policy55-wvfoia-correctedfeb-23-2010.pdf
Section 2. Definitions
2.1
Public Record
. – A public record is “any writing containing information relating to the conduct of the public's business, prepared, owned and retained by a public body.” (W.Va. Code § 29B-1-2(4))
2.3 Exemptions.– Those records which the University, in the sole discretion of the Office for Legal Affairs,could withhold pursuant to W. Va. Code § 29B-1- 4(a).
or this:
Section3 . Policy
3.1 The West Virginia Freedom of Information Act is a state law that allows anyperson to inspect, view or copy any public record that is prepared, owned and maintained by a public body.
Policy 3.3
Some records in the possession of a public body are specifically exempt from disclosure under WVFOIA.
Again the BIG 12 is a private corporation, not a public body. Even if the documents at WVU were public, some records are exempt from disclosure.
http://bog.wvu.edu/files/d/7c4f85dd...64a5/policy55-wvfoia-correctedfeb-23-2010.pdf
Section 2. Definitions
2.1
Public Record
. – A public record is “any writing containing information relating to the conduct of the public's business, prepared, owned and retained by a public body.” (W.Va. Code § 29B-1-2(4))
2.3 Exemptions.– Those records which the University, in the sole discretion of the Office for Legal Affairs,could withhold pursuant to W. Va. Code § 29B-1- 4(a).
or this:
Section3 . Policy
3.1 The West Virginia Freedom of Information Act is a state law that allows anyperson to inspect, view or copy any public record that is prepared, owned and maintained by a public body.
Policy 3.3
Some records in the possession of a public body are specifically exempt from disclosure under WVFOIA.
Again the BIG 12 is a private corporation, not a public body. Even if the documents at WVU were public, some records are exempt from disclosure.
Top tier academics and athletics and $$$$ and you are referring to UNLV? Don't believe they rank particularly high in any of those categories.
3.1 The West Virginia Freedom of Information Act is a state law that allows any person to inspect, view or copy any public record that is prepared, owned and maintained by a public body. (Such as valuable broadcast rights?)
Indeed, such as an anonymous donation. The school does not have to reveal the identity of the giver. But if the school is giving up something to get something, it is public information to John Raese and anyone else in the state of WV who wants it. Give me time to prove it. Debating it will only create an adversarial relationship. That is ridiculous since I agree with 90% of your posts.
Just to add to the discussion about how these sorts of things are sometimes kept from view--shouldn't create any adversarial issues--here's a recent article from the UConn side of things as the Hartford paper tried to get FOIA info on UConn's attempts at the P5 (much like the Cincy paper did to UC):
excerpt(s):
the Hartford Courant submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to UConn for documents related to the university’s efforts to get into a P5. In a response that should have surprised no one, the school said there were no relevant documents.......
.....So let’s get into this. The FOIA entitles the public to access to public records or files produced by or in the control of public agencies (and UConn qualifies as a public agency).
Here’s what a public record is under the law: any recorded data or information relating to the conduct of the public’s business prepared, owned, used, received or retained by a public agency, or to which a public agency is entitled to receive a copy by law or contract under section 1-218, whether such data or information be handwritten, typed, tape-recorded, printed, photostated, photographed or recorded by any other method.
What we know: Former Big East Commissioner Mike Tranghese is under contract to advise President Susan Herbst on all athletic matters. We’ve looked through UConn’s active contracts, and Tranghese’s isn’t there, presumably because he’s being paid by the UConn Foundation. [Editor’s note: A Dime Back has submitted its own Freedom of Information request on the subject] Tranghese has his own firm, MT Consulting, and any documents produced or in the control of the firm that did not end up in the control of UConn are not FOI-able. So any emails sent by Tranghese that don’t go to or from a uconn.edu or ct.gov address would not be subject to disclosure. Any communication done by or through the UConn Foundation, which is a private, non-profit entity, is also not FOI-able. Emails sent from personal accounts are also not FOI-able unless they are done so by state employees regarding state business.
http://adimeback.com/of-course-uconn-is-trying-to-get-into-a-p5/
http://adimeback.com/of-course-uconn-is-trying-to-get-into-a-p5/
excerpt(s):
the Hartford Courant submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to UConn for documents related to the university’s efforts to get into a P5. In a response that should have surprised no one, the school said there were no relevant documents.......
.....So let’s get into this. The FOIA entitles the public to access to public records or files produced by or in the control of public agencies (and UConn qualifies as a public agency).
Here’s what a public record is under the law: any recorded data or information relating to the conduct of the public’s business prepared, owned, used, received or retained by a public agency, or to which a public agency is entitled to receive a copy by law or contract under section 1-218, whether such data or information be handwritten, typed, tape-recorded, printed, photostated, photographed or recorded by any other method.
What we know: Former Big East Commissioner Mike Tranghese is under contract to advise President Susan Herbst on all athletic matters. We’ve looked through UConn’s active contracts, and Tranghese’s isn’t there, presumably because he’s being paid by the UConn Foundation. [Editor’s note: A Dime Back has submitted its own Freedom of Information request on the subject] Tranghese has his own firm, MT Consulting, and any documents produced or in the control of the firm that did not end up in the control of UConn are not FOI-able. So any emails sent by Tranghese that don’t go to or from a uconn.edu or ct.gov address would not be subject to disclosure. Any communication done by or through the UConn Foundation, which is a private, non-profit entity, is also not FOI-able. Emails sent from personal accounts are also not FOI-able unless they are done so by state employees regarding state business.
http://adimeback.com/of-course-uconn-is-trying-to-get-into-a-p5/
http://adimeback.com/of-course-uconn-is-trying-to-get-into-a-p5/
Buck,I really do appreciate your extensive knowledge and research. There are other sides to your argument, such as University of Cincinnati President Santa J. Ono's contacts with the Big 12 to lobby on behalf of his school for membership. That was given to the Cincinnati Enquirer under FOIA.
I have spent hours of research attempting to find a bonafide copy of the GOR between the Big 12 and member schools. I believe that I have found a true copy of that very document. I have submitted a link to it for everyone's consideration. I have gone over it repeatedly and can find nothing to cause me to suspect it is bogus. Therefore I accept it as the truth for my own understanding. I am not going to assault nor defend it.
You believe it is bogus and I respect your beliefs. But others have to decide for themselves. I am not going to take any further action for or against it, because I am then debating myself. I may or may not file a FOIA request with Clemson University regarding the ACC GOR. If I do and receive any kind of response I will post it here. All due respect.
Its simple-people put things out on the internet that are phony all the time.
If as is claimed GORs are public and can be publicly obtained-then it should be no issue to provide GORs from the ACC, Big Ten and Pac 12 as easily as the purported BIG 12 document. If this cannot be done then it is obvious that the document stated as a BIG 12 gor is false.
Also, if the GORs are public records as stated, then the tv contracts for the conferences -all of them-should be public as well--after all schools must have signed off on those as well.
Its also possible to send the purported document to the BIG 12 office, or the presidents office at Oklahoma and simply ask them if the purported document is real or not.
If as is claimed GORs are public and can be publicly obtained-then it should be no issue to provide GORs from the ACC, Big Ten and Pac 12 as easily as the purported BIG 12 document. If this cannot be done then it is obvious that the document stated as a BIG 12 gor is false.
Also, if the GORs are public records as stated, then the tv contracts for the conferences -all of them-should be public as well--after all schools must have signed off on those as well.
Its also possible to send the purported document to the BIG 12 office, or the presidents office at Oklahoma and simply ask them if the purported document is real or not.
You keep saying this copy if the GOR is fake. You still haven’t said how you know that. You just assume that. You haven’t offered any actual proof that it is fake. For example, you don’t have any link to a news story about a fake GOR for the Big 12 circulating on the internet.
The networks would not be doing anything illegal by shifting payment from Conference A to Conference B. When a conference loses members, the network is legally allowed to void the contract. That opens up the contract, just like how adding extra members also opens up the contract. Under the scenario being discussed, the network would be allowed to reduce the contract of Conference A, because the makeup of Conference A has now changed from the original terms of the contract.
People put things out that are false all the time, like the summary of the GOR I was also skeptical of. I still believe this one is real. It makes total sense. A grant of rights is between a school and conference, not a school and network.
This is completely false. The network partners cannot void the contract if a conference loses members. What they would do at some point if a conference loses members is reduce the contract- Bowlsby stated the BIG 12 has a composition clause for a pro rata share for defections written in the contracts. They cannot simply throw the contract away.
You haven't offered any proof the GOR document is real and you are claiming it is- the burden of proof is on you or anyone else claiming it is since the only knowledge and/ or presentation of it has been by anonymous posters on message boards. As I pointed out the proof should be simple- let's see the ACCs GOR for an example. Or the Big Tens or the PAC 12s. Otherwise there's no point in discussing the fake anymore. No news organization is going to do a write up on something that doesn't exist and it doesn't go unnoticed not one of them has presented a public version of a TV Contract from any conference or a grant of rights from any conference or school ever. They have certainly written articles about the matter and could put in FOIA requests for these with more weight than message board posters. No, the burden of proof is on those claiming this document is real when there is no verification of that anywhere.
There is a substantial reason to believe this copy of the GOR is real, and that is the context in which it was presented along with the rest of his "post". It wasn't a post on a message board at all, just a demonstration of a product to enhance pdf files. He used The Big 12 GOR, a Nebraska vs BYU single game contract and another Georgia Tech vs BYU game contract. I checked the Tom Osborne signature on the Nebraska contract and it is consistent with that found other places.
If you can find Tom Osborne's signature-then don't you suppose someone forging a document could as well?
The purported GOR didn't appear in any article or news organizations presentations. It's a product entirely of social media. Many reputable sports news sites have written about grants of rights and not one has referenced the supposed document in any way shape or form, or presented an ACC, Big Ten or Pac 12 grant of rights--yet they've written reports on the same.
Again, why hasn't anyone seen any of those? Why can't CBS or ESPN or FOX or Sports Illustrated or anyone else get these agreements to print or the conferences tv contracts? No such entities have ever been able to present even one of these documents, but somehow, someway an anonymous person on social media can?
Again, if its possible to get an ACTUAL BIG 12 grant of rights document then lets see the ACC, Big Ten and Pac 12 gors.
Anyone as mentioned can forward the document claimed as the BIG 12 gor to the BIG 12 office or the University of Oklahoma for verification as real or faked without any other questions asked.
