Yes, it's false. Provide me one link from a legitimate poster on this board who has claimed they want Bill Stewart as our coach if he were still alive.Please also provide one link from a legitimate poster who has said they were "perfectly happy" not winning the Big East outright under Stewart. I'll wait.
You've got to be kidding--people have criticized the DH hire since day one and have complained about BS's removal constantly. You must never read this board to question that happening.
People have criticized
the way the DH hire was done and a few have complained that the
removal of BS was handled poorly. Nobody but Stewart's wife--and to the best of my knowledge she does not post here--has "had it out" for Holgorsen from "day one" as you allege (but of course cannot prove).
Still waiting for you to provide a link from anybody claiming they still want Stewart as our coach were he still alive or that said they were "perfectly happy" not winning the BE outright under Stewart. Looks like another allegation you can't prove.
Now for some actual truth: That "horrible" Colorado team was 5-7 and also beat one other team with a winning record in 2008. That "average" mid-major ECU was 9-5, won Conference USA, and beat the ACC and Orange Bowl champion Hokies in 2008 as well as beating us.
ECU lost FIVE games that season. They beat lots of nobodies in a mid major conferenceand one ok VT. Colorado was terrible in 2008.
Again, the facts: ECU also won 9, won C-USA, but suddenly a VT who won both the ACC and Orange Bowl was just "OK"? Now who has the agenda? I already provided the actual facts on Colorado which prove your assertion that they were "terrible" to be an agenda-driven manipulation of the facts. They were mediocre, unlike Kansas and Iowa St in 2013 who were truly "terrible" at 3-9 rather than 5-7.
Please enlighten us all as to how that is worse than our current coach who "hasn't been able to win a much better and more competitive elite conference" losing to TWO different 3-9 teams from that same conference which produced the 5-7 Buffaloes? Unlike Colorado, neither Kansas nor Iowa St beat a team with a winning record that year.
Iowa State and Kansas happened in a a year when WVU had little to play for and a bad team. When BS lost to a terrible CU and mediocre ECU, He had many players from a team that had just won a BCS bowl, been ranked in the top ten for years and still had a Heisman cailber QB. Iowa State
Our team DID have something to play for in 2013. They still could have become bowl-eligible and kept the appearance streak going merely by beating the 2 worst teams in the league. Instead, they didn't even show up for the Kansas game and then blew a 24-point lead at home against a 2-9 creampuff. Neither of those teams was playing for anything, either. Why didn't they pack it in?
Even Dave Wannstedt was able to get his teams to show up when they "had little to play for and a bad team"! The fact that you want to just excuse away Holgorsen's 2 most embarrassing losses because we "had little to play for" tells me all I need to know about your experience with sports and your agenda.
There isn't a "Holgorsen attack squad".
Yes, there most certainly is...and the non-troll, high-information fans on the board know exactly who they are.
There are rational posters who understand the travails (including incessant anti WVU attackers like those on this message board)
As opposed to those incessant anti-WVU
fan attackers like those on this message board?
Holgorsen has gone through the past five years--starting with being attacked for accepting a job he was offered
A claim you still have offered no links to prove. Mostly everyone seemed happy at the time to get a highly-sought coordinator, even if they disagreed on how it was handled.
through switching conferences, having a former coach and minions try to destroy him publicly, having to try to build depth
Everyone is sympathetic to these issues, but some of us simply feel they're now being used as a crutch to mask the lack of progress being made. If you feel enough progress is being made, that's fine. However, a steadily growing number of fans do not agree.
while at the same time trying to compete in an elite conference where virtually everyone has more resources at their fingertips and on and on.
That does not seem to be the case. Unquestionably Texas and Oklahoma have vastly more resources, but there has been enough information posted by other people that suggest we may be roughly equal to some of the other schools in spending, facilities, recruiting ratings and so on.
Then there are the troll brigade that have created about 5,000 to 10,000 threads daily over the last five years trying anything and everything desperately to try and eliminate this coach--everything from lying and slander to overinflating every mistep or creating some out of nothing (he wears black clothes, OMG!!!!).
Unlike the Holgorsen fluffer trolls that have created about 5,000 to 10,000 threads daily over the last five years trying anything and everything desperately to try and support this coach--even when unwarranted? Do you also have the same problem with them trying to divide the fanbase by incessantly branding everyone who doesn't agree with them a "troll"?
Of course message boards have an impact on recruiting. If your child or yourself are going to commit to something, you are going to check it out socially as well as physically. It's a horrible shame that public boards that are supposed to represent WVU's fanbase have become the troll ridden joke they now are.
Yes, it's a well-known fact that there were no trolls on the WVU message boards before Holgorsen took over as coach. Everything was sunshine and rainbows then!
Even worse, some that might actually have been WVU fans have joined with the trolls in tearing down their own program.
Yet strangely, you seem to have no problem with those who claim to be WVU fans trolling and tearing down their own program's past accomplishments and coaches. Hmmm...
DH has gotten increasingly better recruiting classes each season--they haven't fallen off at all and that is reality
That's funny, because when people post the actual recruiting ratings they don't seem to back up your claim.
not your lie that recruits are chased away from on field results.
Yes, I lied. It's also a well-known fact that recruits flock in droves to losing programs, and run away like scared rats from winning programs.
all the while people like you try to chase them off in the desperate hope that that will destroy WVUs program and keep fans away from the stadium.
Yes, I must confess: My only goal is the destruction of WVU's program. I guess I'd better come clean about everything...after earning my degree from the school I secretly hate, I also helped participate in the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center. Right after that, I planted myself here on this board because the Magic 8-Ball told me that in 10 years WVU would have a coach that I would be out to get from day one. So I lay here in wait that entire time, spending tens of thousands of dollars over the last 15 years to attend games all the way from Southern California--not because I root for the school, but because I'm secretly bent on its ultimate destruction. I'd have gotten away with it, too, if it wasn't for you meddling Holgorsen superfans! Curses!
There's never been a question that if realistic results aren't being met then the people in charge will do what's necessary. What's not needed is constant incessant destruction of the program for some deranged ego's on the internet who've never done anything to support the program--but feel somehow entitled to bash it constantly for some idiotic agenda.
Well, think how lucky the program is to have such devoted Encyclopedia Browns such as yourself who are so selfless and dedicated that you are able to root out people like me "who've never done anything to support the program"! I'm sure we wouldn't be able to survive without saintly martyrs like you who are here and on a constant vigil for "idiotic agendas" and who OF COURSE wouldn't dream of having an idiotic agenda of your own!
You know, Buckaineer, until now I wouldn't have put you in with the Holgorsen zombies. I just figured you were a poster with whom I didn't agree too much, but who seemed pleasant enough. You're never rude or discourteous, and I just figured you were trying to fight the good fight for an embattled coach. A certain part of me respected that, even though I didn't think Holgorsen had earned it.
However, I can see now that you've gone way too far with that and begun drinking the Kool-Aid that these other buffoons are serving. This coach isn't suddenly going to turn into a Hall of Famer, and this program isn't going to magically turn into a Big 12 title contender if we all simply start holding hands, patting him on the back, and singing Kumbaya.
Here's what none of the Holgorsen attack dogs can admit:
The fans on the message boards aren't causing the losses, the poor play and coaching on the field is.
Nice talking to you, but I am now done because I can see any further discourse with you would be a waste of my time. Have a good holiday, maybe I will see you at the Cactus Bowl.
