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Does Cincy bring Ohio recruits?

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I hate to bring up an expansion question but this hasn't been addressed. There has been a lot said about how adding Cincinnati will bring open the Ohio recruiting grounds if the Big12 expands and includes them. We have 7 recruits in this years class from Ohio. If Cincy is added, does competition for the Ohio recruits go up, go down or stay the same? From my perspective it creates even more competition for Ohio recruits which is already giving us about 25% of our recruits. Cincy will have a better story to sell and it gives a little more opportunity for the rest of the Big12 to swoop in and pick up recruits that tOSU doesn't have room for. What is best for WVU?
 
For this year anyway, Ohio is the single largest source of our recruits. No other state is close.
 
I think it would definitely have an impact but not as much impact as how successful WVU'S football program is though.
 
Take a look at the Big Ten. Since adding Rutgers and Maryland, schools in the Big Ten have picked up recruits from those areas that may not otherwise have gone to the Big Ten. Since adding A&M more Texas players are going into the SEC. Every recruit in Cincinnati and/or Ohio won't go into the BIG 12, but some that never would have considered the conference will. A few players can make a big difference to a team.
 
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Cincy gets you the Cincy-Dayton region,most of southern Indiana, and northern Kentucky.

Adding Cincy would put the Big-12 firmly in the backyard the Big 1G. Northern Kentucky is essentially a suburb of Cincy and where the core of Kentucky and Louisville's football talent comes from. The B-12 puts a wedge between the border of the SEC and B-1G by adding Cincy and puts Louisville on an island in regards to the rest of the ACC.

Not to to mention Kentucky, Indiana and Louisville are going to love Kansas in the backyard once a year live when it comes to basketball recruiting.

I'm for it for the annoyance factor.
 
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I know its just one year but we got 7 recruits from OH, 3 each from WV, MD, PA and FLA,
2 each from GA and NC, and 1 from the states of NJ, MO, MI and TX. So we got 1 recruit from a state with a BIG12 school in it other than our home state of WV which we should recruit no matter who is in the conference. 85% of our recruits came from states with no BIG12 teams and only 4% of the class coming from out of state where a Big12 school is located. The idea that adding schools will open up new recruiting areas looks like wishful thinking. Good programs can recruit anywhere.
 
Cincy gets you the Cincy-Dayton region,most of southern Indiana, and northern Kentucky.

Adding Cincy would put the Big-12 firmly in the backyard the Big 1G. Northern Kentucky is essentially a suburb of Cincy and where the core of Kentucky and Louisville's football talent comes from. The B-12 puts a wedge between the border of the SEC and B-1G by adding Cincy and puts Louisville on an island in regards to the rest of the ACC.

Not to to mention Kentucky, Indiana and Louisville are going to love Kansas in the backyard once a year live when it comes to basketball recruiting.

I'm for it for the annoyance factor.
I have often said Cincy doesn't make sense to me but...yours is the first post that has me raising an eyebrow and thinking...hmmm, I like that wedge an awful lot...several good points here...and I have always enjoyed our past contests with the Bearcats on the gridiron anyway...still like the 10 team round robin however...

Seems that Maryland, PA, Ohio corridor is still panning out, but a bit of a dip from Fla or am I missing something?
 
Why would any WVU fan want an Ohio team in our conference, trying to get the same Ohio recruits?
 
WVU and Cincy tend to draw players from different areas of Ohio. WVU hits the north and northeast part of the state hard, Cincy lives on the Dayton-Cincy metro area. Both go into central Ohio, but it's tough sledding with OSU sitting in Columbus, and Big 1G teams trying to haul kids out of that region for bragging rights against the Buckeyes.

With all the Big 1G teams hitting Ohio hard, how is OSU going to like it when teams like Oklahoma and Texas begin playing road games in their backyard and making serious recruiting connections there?
 
I doubt Urban or Matta or anyone at OSU will care. They take applications there and have more talent than they have room for. I live outside Columbus and fans are rabid for their Buckeyes and high school players dream of playing there. We got at least two kids from Central Columbus for football this year and Williams and Macon and Ahmad are from Cincy, Columbus and Cleveland., so we are already there. tOSU recruits nationally as does Texas and Oklahoma. Recruits we get now from that state have already been told no by tOSU. There would just be more competition for WVU to get Ohio recruits.
 
WVU and Cincy tend to draw players from different areas of Ohio. WVU hits the north and northeast part of the state hard, Cincy lives on the Dayton-Cincy metro area. Both go into central Ohio, but it's tough sledding with OSU sitting in Columbus, and Big 1G teams trying to haul kids out of that region for bragging rights against the Buckeyes.

With all the Big 1G teams hitting Ohio hard, how is OSU going to like it when teams like Oklahoma and Texas begin playing road games in their backyard and making serious recruiting connections there?

Texas and Oklahoma will never take recruits in Ohio that the Buckeyes want, I don't care if they place 6 games a year in Ohio.
 
Michigan got a bunch of recruits out of NJ, with Rutgers being in the B1G 10 now.

I think Cincy being in the big 12 helps us out a little bit with recruiting. I know the b1g 10 recruits ohio pretty hard and there is a lot of talent there. we do well there now but could get some marginally better players, for both football and basketball.

a player who is considering someone like Illinois, Northwestern or Indiana, may now consider WVU or Cincinnati. I think WVU has better brand recognition and a better program than cincinnati, so we could possibly get some better recruits.

We did pretty well in recruiting in FL, and I think playing USF helped.
 
Having a conference mate, with an NFL stadium to boot, in Ohio is not going to "help" anything about Ohio recruiting for WVU....
 
Michigan got a bunch of recruits out of NJ, with Rutgers being in the B1G 10 now.

I think Cincy being in the big 12 helps us out a little bit with recruiting. I know the b1g 10 recruits ohio pretty hard and there is a lot of talent there. we do well there now but could get some marginally better players, for both football and basketball.

a player who is considering someone like Illinois, Northwestern or Indiana, may now consider WVU or Cincinnati. I think WVU has better brand recognition and a better program than cincinnati, so we could possibly get some better recruits.

We did pretty well in recruiting in FL, and I think playing USF helped.

I'd hope we can do better than players that only have options of Illinois, Indiana, and Cincy.

If we strive to get players of that caliber, we aren't going to ever contend for this conference.
 
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