Didn't Gibby say this would be a top 5 defense?

[GetYaNumbersUp]

Yeah, that's a joke. Time to send every single one of these coaches packing. I know KJ is out but my goodness we can't stop anything, and it's about to get worse when Tech hangs 50 on us in our own house.

The receivers suck and can't catch anything, the linebackers are slow, and Skyler is the worst quarterback I've seen play for us (yes, worse than Millard).

I keep hearing about how good of recruiters some of the assistants are, but who have they brought in that's any good? Smallwood is the only guy that would see the field for the upper tier Big 12 teams.

Time to get of rid of Dana and his entire staff and bring in a coaching staff the focuses on fundamentals and playing disciplined football. End of rant

 

[strangertobluewater]

$700,000! Guaranteed for two years, if Dana leaves! But is a 3 year deal! That's 2.1 million! With so many West Virginians out of work, well.....

 

[dolemitebmf]

Yeah, that's a joke. Time to send every single one of these coaches packing. I know KJ is out but my goodness we can't stop anything, and it's about to get worse when Tech hangs 50 on us in our own house.

The receivers suck and can't catch anything, the linebackers are slow, and Skyler is the worst quarterback I've seen play for us (yes, worse than Millard).

I keep hearing about how good of recruiters some of the assistants are, but who have they brought in that's any good? Smallwood is the only guy that would see the field for the upper tier Big 12 teams.

Time to get of rid of Dana and his entire staff and bring in a coaching staff the focuses on fundamentals and playing disciplined football. End of rant

Top 5 in missed tackles...

 

[GetYaNumbersUp]

$700,000! Guaranteed for two years, if Dana leaves! But is a 3 year deal! That's 2.1 million! With so many West Virginians out of work, well.....

Blame it on Ollie Luck, he was the one dumb enough to sign him to that extension after one bowl win, which has turned out to be a complete fluke.

But, according to many on here, we were blessed to have been graced by Ollie's presence.

 

[mountiefan88]

Skyler is Chad Johnston 2.0

 

[CE4WVU]

fundamentals and playing disciplined football.

That is probably 85 - 90% of the problem of why we are 0-4 thus far in conference play... the lack of these two issues. Directly reflects back on the coaching staff...

 

[Willona Woods]

Yeah, that's a joke. Time to send every single one of these coaches packing. I know KJ is out but my goodness we can't stop anything, and it's about to get worse when Tech hangs 50 on us in our own house.

The receivers suck and can't catch anything, the linebackers are slow, and Skyler is the worst quarterback I've seen play for us (yes, worse than Millard).

I keep hearing about how good of recruiters some of the assistants are, but who have they brought in that's any good? Smallwood is the only guy that would see the field for the upper tier Big 12 teams.

Time to get of rid of Dana and his entire staff and bring in a coaching staff the focuses on fundamentals and playing disciplined football. End of rant

This defense would not be in the top 5 in the MWC. Too slow and no depth.

 

[Willona Woods]

Blame it on Ollie Luck, he was the one dumb enough to sign him to that extension after one bowl win, which has turned out to be a complete fluke.

But, according to many on here, we were blessed to have been graced by Ollie's presence.

This was another of Ollie's folly's. Much like Ollie's disastrous failure to get us a spot in the ACC.

 

[mountiefan88]

People are trying to forget he made that comment. I pointed out they had ten starters returning and the focus was on the ONE guy who got injured.

 

[listentomenowandheermelateer!]

Wasn't Gibby one of RR's coffee gopher minions? He's a step up from Joe Defro
but maybe only one step. The stack D sure is frustrating.

 

[HurdyGurdyEer]

OK ... I guess I missed it or have forgotten it. But when did Gibby say this defense was a Top 5 defense?

 

[wbgvwbgv]

That is probably 85 - 90% of the problem of why we are 0-4 thus far in conference play... the lack of these two issues. Directly reflects back on the coaching staff...

Do you think playing 4 Top 15 teams (3 on the road) had anything to do with it? Our conference opponents so far are 28-1. That is unreal.

28-1 !!!

 

[Boomboom521]

Yeah, that's a joke. Time to send every single one of these coaches packing. I know KJ is out but my goodness we can't stop anything, and it's about to get worse when Tech hangs 50 on us in our own house.

The receivers suck and can't catch anything, the linebackers are slow, and Skyler is the worst quarterback I've seen play for us (yes, worse than Millard).

I keep hearing about how good of recruiters some of the assistants are, but who have they brought in that's any good? Smallwood is the only guy that would see the field for the upper tier Big 12 teams.

Time to get of rid of Dana and his entire staff and bring in a coaching staff the focuses on fundamentals and playing disciplined football. End of rant

You are always posting some pretty harsh sentiments. I'd like to know if you have done anything worthy of even being evaluated by the public in your life?

Losing KJ hurts a program like this.....we are not two deep with studs at every position like big time programs. Plus, the offense has to help the d out a little bit. 3 and outs do NOT help!!

 

[Boomboom521]

This was another of Ollie's folly's. Much like Ollie's disastrous failure to get us a spot in the ACC.

Oliver Luck was a great AD! Look at other programs. He kept two incredibly good soccer coaches, and holgorsen was a good hire (at least back then). Hind sight is always 20/20. Luck got us the Big 12 at least. Can't fault him for taking what we could get.

 

[skygusty]

The defense would probably look better if the offense could stay on the field and score more than 20 points.

 

[GetYaNumbersUp]

You are always posting some pretty harsh sentiments. I'd like to know if you have done anything worthy of even being evaluated by the public in your life?

Losing KJ hurts a program like this.....we are not two deep with studs at every position like big time programs. Plus, the offense has to help the d out a little bit. 3 and outs do NOT help!!

Actually, I've always been positive about Dana and his program, but it's time to call a spade a spade.

Also, being evaluated by the public comes with the territory when you are coaching a major college football program. Dana and his staff would agree with that. These guys can take the heat or they'd be coaching high school ball.

 

[Boomboom521]

Actually, I've always been positive about Dana and his program, but it's time to call a spade a spade.

Also, being evaluated by the public comes with the territory when you are coaching a major college football program. Dana and his staff would agree with that. These guys can take the heat or they'd be coaching high school ball.

That is true. I'm sure they can take it, but let's take it easy on Gibson. Second year, offense isn't helping, and KJ was a big loss.

 

[jpf578]

Blame it on Ollie Luck, he was the one dumb enough to sign him to that extension after one bowl win, which has turned out to be a complete fluke.

But, according to many on here, we were blessed to have been graced by Ollie's presence.

We were blessed!

 

[jpf578]

Do you think playing 4 Top 15 teams (3 on the road) had anything to do with it? Our conference opponents so far are 28-1. That is unreal.

28-1 !!!

Now you're just bringing logic into the equation. He'll have none of that!

 

[CE4WVU]

Do you think playing 4 Top 15 teams (3 on the road) had anything to do with it? Our conference opponents so far are 28-1. That is unreal.

28-1 !!!

Do you think we would have been 0-4 with anyone else who actually knew how to head coach?

 

[CE4WVU]

That is true. I'm sure they can take it, but let's take it easy on Gibson. Second year, offense isn't helping, and KJ was a big loss.

As was Joseph

 

[VaultHunter]

I think it's safe to say WVU has played the toughest 4 game stretch of anyone in college football.

Is it coincidence WVU's defense looked awesome the first 3 games and bad in 3 of the last 4?

Let's play some lesser Big12 teams before declaring the defense a total bust k

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

Of course, none of the four have played much of anyone, let alone each other yet.

 

[GoWVU]

Let's play some lesser Big12 teams before declaring the defense a total bust k

Last year our defense held both of the Big 12's playoff contenders significantly below their normal offensive output.

Yet this season, with virtually that entire unit returning, and getting serious hype all offseason from everyone in sight--including the head coach--the D got strafed for over 600 yards each by both Baylor and TCU, plus a combined 102 points.

If that isn't a serious red flag, I don't know what is.

 

[BackpageNews]

Yeah, that's a joke. Time to send every single one of these coaches packing. I know KJ is out but my goodness we can't stop anything, and it's about to get worse when Tech hangs 50 on us in our own house.

The receivers suck and can't catch anything, the linebackers are slow, and Skyler is the worst quarterback I've seen play for us (yes, worse than Millard).

I keep hearing about how good of recruiters some of the assistants are, but who have they brought in that's any good? Smallwood is the only guy that would see the field for the upper tier Big 12 teams.

Time to get of rid of Dana and his entire staff and bring in a coaching staff the focuses on fundamentals and playing disciplined football. End of rant

I believe that the goal was to give up only 21 points per game. Through 7 games they are giving up a total of 28.85 points per game. Breaking that down a little farther and you see that the 3 out of conference games they only gave up a average of 6.66 points per game. This really helps the over all number once you see the in conference figures. The last 4 games they have given up a total of 44.75 points per game while scoring at an average of 24.5 points per game through the same 4 games. If the same trend continues over the next 5 games the end of season average will be giving up 35.47 points per game. I am still hopeful that the trend lessens over the last 5 games but not even close to their goal of 21 points per game. Can you call this a fail without being called a troll?

 

[EER X]

Nobody in this league is going to be top 5 nationally in defense by the end of the year given the emphasis on high powered offenses in the B12.

Our biggest problem on defense is numerous injuries and an offense that can't give them a break. When healthy, we have some great defensive athletes. It would be nice if the offense would score some points to give the D hope of winning for their efforts.

 

[Boomboom521]

Nobody in this league is going to be top 5 nationally in defense by the end of the year given the emphasis on high powered offenses in the B12.

Our biggest problem on defense is numerous injuries and an offense that can't give them a break. When healthy, we have some great defensive athletes. It would be nice if the offense would score some points to give the D hope of winning for their efforts.

Do you think Gibson is a solid play caller? I thought he over blitzed last year a little, and got lucky sometimes. The final drive by TCU last year worried me, and this year hasn't been good at all. However, I do think you're right in attributing it to injuries and lack of time off the field due to the struggling offense. We DO NOT NEED ANYMORE TURNOVER AT D COORDINATOR, so I'm hoping Gibby is the guy. Just not so sure of that anymore.

 

[BackpageNews]

Is there anybody in the P5 conferences, besides WVU, that is using the 3-3-5? If so what are they ranked?

 

[Boomboom521]

Is there anybody in the P5 conferences, besides WVU, that is using the 3-3-5? If so what are they ranked?

Arizona uses it I know. Don't think they are doing well either. I hate the stack, hated it when Casteel was here, but some say it helps recruiting because it uses more athletes? Good question, and I'd love to know the actual answer

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

I think reasons for the 3-3-5 are that really good D linemen are tough to come by and, additionally, our D uses effectively guys who would be tweeners in conventional 3-4 or 4-3 alignments. Those tweeners (ss/olb, fs/cb, rush end/lb) might get overlooked but be good football players.

The other premise is the offense never can be sure where the pressure will come from because, in theory, we can blitz from just about anywhere without tipping it off. I think the inability to pressure the QB is what is hurting us most. I don't think that's scheme. I think it's a combination of personnel and play calling.

 

[Spocker]

Fools gold defense.....or house of Gibby cards ....

 

[spreadoption]

We're giving up an average of more than 11 points per QUARTER in Big XII play.

Awful, just awful.

And this was supposed to be a good defense.

We haven't played a lick of defense since Casteel was the coordinator.

 

[RAK]

This defense would not be in the top 5 in the MWC. Too slow and no depth.

I agree, where has our speed gone on both sides of the ball?

 

[GoWVU]

We're giving up an average of more than 11 points per QUARTER in Big XII play.

Awful, just awful.

And this was supposed to be a good defense.

Wow, the fact that it's anywhere close is alarming.

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

I'm not clear on why people are surprised abot the D. It' mostly the same guys as last year's very mediocre D, and we lost Bradley, the 1 actual grown-up we've had on the staff in years.

 

[GetYaNumbersUp]

I'm not clear on why people are surprised abot the D. It' mostly the same guys as last year's very mediocre D, and we lost Bradley, the 1 actual grown-up we've had on the staff in years.

UCLA's defense sucks this year also, they've had games where they've given up 30, 38, and 56 points. Losing Bradley wasn't the issue, it's Gibby being too blitz happy and too predictable in doing so. His highlight reel was Baylor last season, but teams have figured it out since then.

Not being able to create pressure without bringing the blitz all the time is a back breaker, and good teams will smoke us, Texas Tech included.

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

You have to blitz a lot in the 3-3-5 unless you have an absolute beast at DE and can get deep push up the middle. Even then it's hard to get consistent pressure with 3.

The problem isn't that we are blitzing. The problem is it rarely gets to the QB. Even when we do break free, the QB seems to usually elude the rush, often breaking contain.

 

[GetYaNumbersUp]

You have to blitz a lot in the 3-3-5 unless you have an absolute beast at DE and can get deep push up the middle. Even then it's hard to get consistent pressure with 3.

The problem isn't that we are blitzing. The problem is it rarely gets to the QB. Even when we do break free, the QB seems to usually elude the rush, often breaking contain.

Exactly my point. Teams have figured out Gibby's blitzes because they are predictable, they pick them up, and they make them pay for it.

I guess to keep it short, my overall point is that the 3-3-5 sucks.

 

[GoWVU]

I'm not clear on why people are surprised abot the D.

First, it showed some flashes against the better opponents in 2014. Combined with how hesitant most coaches are to overhype their own expectations (particularly ones like Holgorsen who knew his job security would be an issue), then I do think this is one occasion when a bit of surprise is warranted.

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

Again, I don't think it's scheme. I agree with you about us being too predictable in terms o both when we blitz and who we bring.

It's also personnel. Our D-line is just not good. The LBs are good players but more in the hardnosed run stopper vein than guys who are effective blitzing. Kwit and Barber are 2 of my favorite players on team but they are kinda slow. Muldrow and Benton are clueless and while faster make too many mistakes and play soft. Dillon is probably our best blitzer but you can only bring him judiciously especially against smart QBs.