Despite what the college playoff committee decides

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

I think that every UNBEATEN Power 5 conference champ should be in the national playoffs.
It doesn't matter whether it's Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma State or Iowa. If you are UNBEATEN and win your conference title, then you should be in the playoffs.

The Power 5 set up the playoffs. The least the committee can do, to be fair, is make sure all of the UNBEATEN conference champs get in.

There can't be more than three of them, so there's still room for Alabama or Notre Dame to be the 4th.

Otherwise, it's a sham. If Oklahoma wins out, then Notre Dame will get in ahead of the Sooners because the Irish demolished the team that demolished Oklahoma (Texas). If Oklahoma State wins out, what excuse is there for NOT putting the Cowboys in. They will have beaten Oklahoma, Baylor, TCU and West Virginia.

True, Central Michigan, Central Arkansas and Texas San Antonio are a poor OOC lineup. But, again, if Oklahoma State beats the other top 3 teams in the Big 12, how in God's name can you keep the Cowboys out of the national playoffs with a 12-0 record?

Insanity!

Of course, Oklahoma State has to win out. Again, if a Power 5 conference champ is unbeaten, then it should be in the national playoffs. Period.

 

[skygusty]

4 slots for 5 conferences will never work. 8 is the number.

 

[pressvirginia]

only hope for the BXII is Ok State surviving undefeated.

1-loss OU is impressive but Notre Dame has the edge on them if they remain 1-loss:
ND beat TX 38-3. TX beat OU 24-17.

How about the disrespect to TCU? They lost ONE game at Ok State. One loss at unbeaten. Now No. 18.

That sounds bad, but when you look at Houston at 10-0 & ranked 19th, anything goes. Five 2-loss teams are ahead of a 10-0 club.

Two 1-loss teams are ahead of 10-0 Ok State and 10-0 Iowa. In other words, there is no penalty for losing done by some teams.

 

[GoWVU]

Newsflash to Cuyahoga: It's already a sham.

The really funny part is the phony committee couldn't be arranging less attractive games if they tried. Only way it could be duller is if Ped St was in there instead of Clemson.

 

[pressvirginia]

agreed. it's going to be great exciting match-ups.

a Clemson-Notre Dame rematch.

then an Alabama-Ohio State rematch from last season.

awesome.

 

[wbgvwbgv]

The selection committee seems more political than the polls and I am not sure this system can survive long term. The biggest factor on who gets in seems to be who is on the selection committee with the selection factors changing weekly.

Norte Dame was able to get three supporters with ND ties on the committee: Rice (got her master's degree at ND); Willingham (former head coach at ND); Transghese (biggest ND lackey in the country). There also seems to be two members who probably aren't Big 12 supporters: Osborne (Mr. Nebraska) and Steve Wieberg (Missouri grad and sports writer). The Big 12 only has Hocutt ( TT's A.D.).

 

[VaultHunter]

8 teams.

5 conference winners. 1 highest ranked/best resume G5. 2 at large.

 

[WVUFanForever]

Pretty simple isn't it Vault Hunter?

That is why it will never happen.

Trust me I know basketball and football are totally different....but its funny how many teams get at least a shot in basketball and football its so narrow and based on the political power structure selecting it.

 

[TruWVblu]

only hope for the BXII is Ok State surviving undefeated.

1-loss OU is impressive but Notre Dame has the edge on them if they remain 1-loss:
ND beat TX 38-3. TX beat OU 24-17.

How about the disrespect to TCU? They lost ONE game at Ok State. One loss at unbeaten. Now No. 18.

That sounds bad, but when you look at Houston at 10-0 & ranked 19th, anything goes. Five 2-loss teams are ahead of a 10-0 club.

Two 1-loss teams are ahead of 10-0 Ok State and 10-0 Iowa. In other words, there is no penalty for losing done by some teams.

I agree with you, but I am not sure how Notre Dame has the edge on a 1 loss OU. Their SOS is completely dependent on Clemson, a game they lost. Their next best win is against Temple, which now does not look great at all.

 

[Soaring Eagle 74]

I think that every UNBEATEN Power 5 conference champ should be in the national playoffs.
It doesn't matter whether it's Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma State or Iowa. If you are UNBEATEN and win your conference title, then you should be in the playoffs.

The Power 5 set up the playoffs. The least the committee can do, to be fair, is make sure all of the UNBEATEN conference champs get in.

There can't be more than three of them, so there's still room for Alabama or Notre Dame to be the 4th.

Otherwise, it's a sham. If Oklahoma wins out, then Notre Dame will get in ahead of the Sooners because the Irish demolished the team that demolished Oklahoma (Texas). If Oklahoma State wins out, what excuse is there for NOT putting the Cowboys in. They will have beaten Oklahoma, Baylor, TCU and West Virginia.

True, Central Michigan, Central Arkansas and Texas San Antonio are a poor OOC lineup. But, again, if Oklahoma State beats the other top 3 teams in the Big 12, how in God's name can you keep the Cowboys out of the national playoffs with a 12-0 record?

Insanity!

Of course, Oklahoma State has to win out. Again, if a Power 5 conference champ is unbeaten, then it should be in the national playoffs. Period.

I've got to give you some credit. I believe you had a career in journalism, and one thing that annoys me is when highly paid, "professional" reporters use "in spite of", as opposed to despite.

You wrote it correctly. Thank you.

 

[43rd Parallel]

4 slots for 5 conferences will never work. 8 is the number.

They also could make it work with 6. Top 2 would get first-round byes.

 

[WiiWii]

I don't get the "RA RA" for Big 12. Could not give a sh1t. wVu is my only concern....

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

The committee hasn't decided anything yet. There is no reason to believe any undefeated Power 5 team will be excluded.

The current rankings indicate that the committee doubts Iowa or OSU will finish undefeated and suggests that neither will make it with 1 loss in the absence of a series of upsets that is very unlikely. I doubt either will finish undefeated either. In fact, I think both are more likely to finish with 2 losses than with zero losses.

Why does the committee currently rank Iowa and OSU lower than two 1 loss teams? Because, while the most important factor after all the games have been played, w-l record gets less weight now when both still have their biggest challenges ahead. Right now, the committee does not believe either team is as good as Bama or ND based on whom they have played and how they have looked. (there is really no decent argument Bama isn't looking better; ND is more dubious.) Both teams have the opportunity to change that belief by beating strong teams down the stretch. If Iowa wins out it will obviously jump Ohio State, and no one behind it is going to jump ahead of it. OSU does not have the chance to beat someone ahead of it but it has 2 teams in the current top 10 and would clearly have a better profile than Notre Dame if it finishes undefeated.

The real controversy will blow up if ND has to compete with 1 loss Oklahoma and/or MSU for the spot. The committee can't pick a 1 loss ND over an undefeated Iowa or OSU, but will it get preferential treatment over OU or MSU because of the name? I would not rule that out, but that's as far as I am willing to go with claims of agenda and rigging.

OU v. MSU head-to-head (even if ND gets upset) would also be a very difficult choice. OU would have finished with big wins over Baylor, TCU and OSU consecutively while MSU could possibly finish with wins over previously undefeated OSU and Iowa.

 

[torontoeers]

Maybe the committee won't need to worry about ND...last game at Stanford is ripe for an upset imo....that Mccaffrey lad looks pretty damn good...

 

[countryroads89]

They also could make it work with 6. Top 2 would get first-round byes.

Then we/they would be bitching about the unfairness of which two get the byes. Make it 8 and be done with it already.

 

[WVU-SE]

Yeah, I think if Oklahoma wins out they will get in. The Stanford loss really hurt the Irish. That would have been a big win for them. Sooners have been an impressive bunch.

 

[WiiWii]

Yeah, I think if Oklahoma wins out they will get in. The Stanford loss really hurt the Irish. That would have been a big win for them. Sooners have been an impressive bunch.

you do realize that they have not even played Stanford yet, don't you?

 

[WVU-SE]

you do realize that they have not even played Stanford yet, don't you?

What I meant was the Stanford loss to Oregon lol. It took away a very good possible win.