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Dana's worst game so far...

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This might get a little lengthy so I hope you'll bear with me...

This was a game that was winnable for us - with the right scheme. We might not have won it at the end, but we should have at least been in it.

But, we weren't. And the reason - scheme.

TCU's strength, of course, is their offense. Their weakness, their defense. This team could be scored upon.

The plan should have been to run the ball all night. Stick with it, and wear them down. Most importantly, keep the clock moving and keep TCU's vaunted offense off the field.

Surprisingly, we have been very successful running the ball. Without being exact, I would guess we are averaging somewhere in the vicinity of 5 yards a carry. Also, we have been doing very well in getting to 3rd down and short.

Then the wheels fall off... and its scheme.

That's when we go to the weakness of our offense, (and the weakness of every offense - the deep ball). We have done this, if I recall, about 8 times tonight and been successful once.

The reason this is schematically wrong - before we blame the QB and receivers - is that even if you complete the pass even the best teams are only successful around 30% of the time. Add to the fact that the receivers are freshmen/first year players still learning how to play the ball (and not very good at it) and you are playing into the weakness of your own team.

Now, what's truly wrong here is these are really the only routes being run. It's throw the deep ball because that's the only route being run.

Instead of staying with the bread and butter, what keeps the clock running and the ball away from TCU, and allows the game to stay manageable going into the 4th quarter, was abandoned because we got impatient and didn't take what the defense was giving us - the run and everything underneath. Just because they are playing us man up doesn't mean the only route has to be a deep low percentage one.

It has been this way all year - not just this game. Bad decisions in game management and planning.

Oh, and the bonehead move of the night. Passing the ball on 1st down from your own 9 with the opportunity to run out the clock and only be down by 10 going into the half. Different story if they have 2 timeouts left or you get the ball back to start the half. NOPE! Give them a free time out, and give them the opportunity to put themselves up by essentially 2 touchdowns AND get the ball back to start the half.

These types of mistakes are the ones we saw when Stew was here... and they are being repeated again. Maybe history should repeat itself....
 
Agreed. The bomb pass attempts on 3rd and short, I don't get it. Run the ball and the clock out before halftime.

Smallwood has been a good dependable runner. Keep him in every series. I still think more could be done running option with Howard. He took a big long one to the house in Norman I think it was.

Simplify the system. Dana says if something works, we'll do it again. Then do it. Run the football, keep Boykin on the sideline and milk the clock down as much as possible.
 
Agreed. The bomb pass attempts on 3rd and short, I don't get it. Run the ball and the clock out before halftime.

Smallwood has been a good dependable runner. Keep him in every series. I still think more could be done running option with Howard. He took a big long one to the house in Norman I think it was.

Simplify the system. Dana says if something works, we'll do it again. Then do it. Run the football, keep Boykin on the sideline and milk the clock down as much as possible.
Half the problem is that Howard can't read the read option with any regularity!! Add in that wr's drop TD passes and it makes for a long night!!
 
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The clock management at the end of the first half was the final straw for me.

Embarrassing WVU on national TV by giving Boykin a high five was the straw that broke the camel's back. Give the kid a pat on the butt or grab him after the game. You don't do that..

"What the hell else was I supposed to do yell at our kids? What good was that gonna do?" Dana when asked about high five..I'm afraid this shows what kind of environment Dana is running at WVU, nobody accountable and bad results equal unemployment in college football.
 
Most teams & coaches don't look very good playing a top 5 team on the road. It might have something to do with the other team. Maybe?
 
This might get a little lengthy so I hope you'll bear with me...

This was a game that was winnable for us - with the right scheme. We might not have won it at the end, but we should have at least been in it.

But, we weren't. And the reason - scheme.

TCU's strength, of course, is their offense. Their weakness, their defense. This team could be scored upon.

The plan should have been to run the ball all night. Stick with it, and wear them down. Most importantly, keep the clock moving and keep TCU's vaunted offense off the field.

Surprisingly, we have been very successful running the ball. Without being exact, I would guess we are averaging somewhere in the vicinity of 5 yards a carry. Also, we have been doing very well in getting to 3rd down and short.

Then the wheels fall off... and its scheme.

That's when we go to the weakness of our offense, (and the weakness of every offense - the deep ball). We have done this, if I recall, about 8 times tonight and been successful once.

The reason this is schematically wrong - before we blame the QB and receivers - is that even if you complete the pass even the best teams are only successful around 30% of the time. Add to the fact that the receivers are freshmen/first year players still learning how to play the ball (and not very good at it) and you are playing into the weakness of your own team.

Now, what's truly wrong here is these are really the only routes being run. It's throw the deep ball because that's the only route being run.

Instead of staying with the bread and butter, what keeps the clock running and the ball away from TCU, and allows the game to stay manageable going into the 4th quarter, was abandoned because we got impatient and didn't take what the defense was giving us - the run and everything underneath. Just because they are playing us man up doesn't mean the only route has to be a deep low percentage one.

It has been this way all year - not just this game. Bad decisions in game management and planning.

Oh, and the bonehead move of the night. Passing the ball on 1st down from your own 9 with the opportunity to run out the clock and only be down by 10 going into the half. Different story if they have 2 timeouts left or you get the ball back to start the half. NOPE! Give them a free time out, and give them the opportunity to put themselves up by essentially 2 touchdowns AND get the ball back to start the half.

These types of mistakes are the ones we saw when Stew was here... and they are being repeated again. Maybe history should repeat itself....

The only mistake Stewy made was going 9-3 and taking us to a legitimate bowl. Had Stew gone 13-0 every year (with the NC) folks would have sooner or later jumped on his bandwagon. I feel like the faithful would be happy with a 9-3 record right about the end of this year. Warez
 
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I agree with the OP here. Very good points.

I too agree with the OP. I just don't like folks making comparisons to Stew. Stew deserves credit for being a great Mountaineer...........! His record at WV speaks for itself.
 
The only mistake Stewy made was going 9-3 and taking us to a legitimate bowl. Had Stew gone 13-0 every year (with the NC) folks would have sooner or later jumped on his bandwagon. I feel like the faithful would be happy with a 9-3 record right about the end of this year. Warez

Stewart never beat a Top 15 team during his three years as head coach so insinuating that he would have a better record at this point doesn't seem likely. And like Nehlen, Bowden, and Holgorsen, he had his detractors. Unless you luck out like RR and the conference falls apart allowing you to accumulate a bunch of easy wins, not everyone is going to support you as a head coach (especially one transitioning a school into a power conference).
 
I am not worried, there are more to come. Oh well, nothing I can do about it.
Lets gooooo Mountaineers.
But I will say, something I never thought I would sat. I just walk away from the TV or turn the radio off and the game is over. Losses by Dana are the norm and will be the norm. I see one 235 pound Defensive end on the recruiting list. How do you build a defense when you dont have a line that can allow the LBs and DBs to make the plays they should be making. When the opposing O linemen are blocking out LBs, All we have left is the secondary and we are down to almost no one there who has experience, But we have the coach we obviously want. So, we have to live with what we have which is ho hum.
Lets hope basketball is good this year and can at least make another sweet 16 run or better.
WVU football has taken a huge step backwards under Holgs . 5 years of the same, does it change in year 6,7,8 and until he retires? Isn't his contract through 2020 or something like that. Just curious, because I am wondering how much longer to expect this type of season,
 
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