Dana could blow the next 5 and his fanatics will support him

[wvpaper]

and they would cite rehashed excuses. on the flip side, if he won the next 5 (of course he won't) i probably would still know he is a horrible coach

moral of the story.... no one is admitting they're wrong about dana on a message board.

of course, i'm right, so it is easier for me.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

and they would cite rehashed excuses. on the flip side, if he won the next 5 (of course he won't) i probably would still know he is a horrible coach

moral of the story.... no one is admitting they're wrong about dana on a message board.

of course, i'm right, so it is easier for me.

The only poster who seems to stand firmly with Dana is Keaton (and wbgvwbgv). A couple others are letting it play out. I'm not sure who all these fanatics are. You seem to be the busiest poster these days and the most fanatical.

 

[wvpaper]

The only poster who seems to stand firmly with Dana is Keaton (and wbgvwbgv). A couple others are letting it play out. I'm not sure who all these fanatics are. You seem to be the busiest poster these days and the most fanatical.

you're not wbgvwbgv?

 

[MntnEERinSC]

Not this fella!! I'm done with him, I can no longer support him!! What you won't see me doing is bashing him or any of the players!! To me, that does zero good!!

 

[Darth_VadEER]

Not this fella!! I'm done with him, I can no longer support him!! What you won't see me doing is bashing him or any of the players!! To me, that does zero good!!

You seem kinda smart. You probably shouldn't be here.

 

[Pushingtin]

Jesco White could take over and lead us to wins against Kansas and Iowa St....but do I think there would still be Danapologist on board if he lost out......yeah I think there would be.

 

[31Herd55]

Hero Worshippers sometimes pick strange Heros

 

[Mountaineer Steve]

and they would cite rehashed excuses. on the flip side, if he won the next 5 (of course he won't) i probably would still know he is a horrible coach

moral of the story.... no one is admitting they're wrong about dana on a message board.

of course, i'm right, so it is easier for me.

I doubt that, but he could win the next 5 and haters like you are still gonna hate.

 

[Mountaineer Steve]

The only poster who seems to stand firmly with Dana is Keaton (and wbgvwbgv). A couple others are letting it play out. I'm not sure who all these fanatics are. You seem to be the busiest poster these days and the most fanatical.

I am in the corner of letting it play out. 6 and 6 or worse them I am out, but if we win 4 of next 5 which I think we will if we can get past TT, then I am still on board

 

[VaultHunter]

I think it's easier to wait till the end of the season to decide.

I'm afraid if your hoping WVU will fire Dana midseason then your not gonna get your wish.

Whether your a Dana supporter or not the best thing for WVU is to see how this season plays out.

9-4 and a bowl win and WVU is a top 25 team. Hard to fire him then.

6-6 or worse and WVU has every right to fire Dana.

We all know you want Dana to be fired now but its not gonna happen. I promise you don't have to constantly remind us. We all know how you feel.

 

[KeatonsCorner]

I am not a pro-Dana guy at all

Im just extremely against ignorant opinions.....

At the beginnig of the season, most posters were predicting 8 wins max (my prediction was 8-5 post bowl game)....

And then the fake-posturing of expecting more came along by a small few because they knew it would be the easy route to their agendas during our stretch in October

I still see 8 regular season wins.... If that happens, Dana proves he deserves to stay.

Im very anti-carousel..... Stability is what this program needs, both in the roster and the staffing

 

[Pushingtin]

I am not a pro-Dana guy at all

Im just extremely against ignorant opinions.....

At the beginnig of the season, most posters were predicting 8 wins max (my prediction was 8-5 post bowl game)....

And then the fake-posturing of expecting more came along by a small few because they knew it would be the easy route to their agendas during our stretch in October

I still see 8 regular season wins.... If that happens, Dana proves he deserves to stay.

Im very anti-carousel..... Stability is what this program needs, both in the roster and the staffing

at 8 wins....who has he beaten??? show me any quality win.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

at 8 wins....who has he beaten??? show me any quality win.

He's had big wins before though. Orange Bowl, Texas in Austin, top ranked Baylor, top ranked OK State. Those are good wins.

I honestly think if Trickett stays healthy we win 9-10 games last season - TCU being one of them.

 

[Pushingtin]

I am not a pro-Dana guy at a

He's had big wins before though. Orange Bowl, Texas in Austin, top ranked Baylor, top ranked OK State. Those are good wins.

I honestly think if Trickett stays healthy we win 9-10 games last season - TCU being one of them.

we were talking about this year...but yes, Baylor to me is his best win.....beating Texas wasn't that great that year and then to allow team to implode like it did with that amount of talent was unacceptable....anyone that watched the Ok St games knows that the pokes did not show up to play at all and yet Dana still tried to find ways to steal a defeat from the jaws of victory. As for this year......8 wins with our schedule is not an accomplishment. Maybe we will draw a good team in a bowl and win....if that's the case I will give him his due but still would want his arse fired as he just isn't a good coach and there is no use wasting anymore time with him

 

[Darth_VadEER]

Toughest schedule in school history and 8 wins isn't an accompliment? You're unreasonable.

Nehlen made a career with 7-8 win seasons on easy schedules. Stewart got 9 on easy street.

8 wins on this schedule would be a good job. If he get it, that is.

LOL - Beating Texas in Austin...not that great. Beating Top 10 (or whatever they were) OK State...but not by enough.

 

[Pushingtin]

Toughest schedule in school history and 8 wins isn't an accompliment? You're unreasonable.

Nehlen made a career with 7-8 win seasons on easy schedules. Stewart got 9 on easy street.

8 wins on this schedule would be a good job. If he get it, that is.

LOL - Beating Texas in Austin...not that great. Beating Top 10 (or whatever they were) OK State...but not by enough.

SHOW ME ONE QUALITY WIN.......he has lost to any and all good teams on schedule. Anyone can win 8 games if you are playing weak teams!!!!
So let me get this straight.....just by going to Austin you are expected to lose....you know how stupid you sound if you are saying we should expect to lose to a bad Texas team just because it is played in Austin.

 

[MntnEERinSC]

You seem kinda smart. You probably shouldn't be here.

Well I'm smart enough to know that me bitching isn't gonna change anything!! All I can do is root on my EERS and hope that things get better!!

 

[dogeered_again]

I might pull a gun on a highway man or some reprobate that is trying to rob me or rape my woman... or even another woman... but I won't pull it out on our team or coach at this point. We are building something here and, like Dodge City, it takes time to get rid of the "Cowboys". I'm not sure whether our coach is Wyatt Earp or "Doc" Holiday (no reference to that other "Doc" intended for gosh sake) but I'll take him until we clean up the mess left to us. If we were to fire everyone and then re-build, we'd still have blood in the streets and citizens in disarray. I say... let the fight ensue and be patient because we only have one bull in town... even though it might be a red one.

 

[JIMEER86]

I am not a pro-Dana guy at all

Im just extremely against ignorant opinions.....

At the beginnig of the season, most posters were predicting 8 wins max (my prediction was 8-5 post bowl game)....

And then the fake-posturing of expecting more came along by a small few because they knew it would be the easy route to their agendas during our stretch in October

I still see 8 regular season wins.... If that happens, Dana proves he deserves to stay.

Im very anti-carousel..... Stability is what this program needs, both in the roster and the staffing

One of the best posts I've ever read - glad there is someone here who doesn't just puff his chest out and make stupid proclamations. I think a lot of the posters on this board are fans of themselves more than they are fans of WVU.

 

[motownbilly]

We all know you want Dana to be fired now but its not gonna happen. I promise you don't have to constantly remind us. We all know how you feel.[/QUOTE]

If it that is the case then there is a whole lot of time and energy being spent. Or maybe your now means instantly like yesterday. Regardless, I think next year at this time we will be struggling to remember how to spell his name. He is done.

 

[43rd Parallel]

Dana could blow the next 5 and his fanatics will support him ... and they would cite rehashed excuses.

Guess I'm calling B.S. on that. If West Virginia loses the next five, which means dropping three home games as well as road trips to the two Kansas schools, then absolutely no one will support him. No one. Nada. Zilch. Zip. Zero.

 

[TruWVblu]

Guess I'm calling B.S. on that. If West Virginia loses the next five, which means dropping three home games as well as road trips to the two Kansas schools, then absolutely no one will support him. No one. Nada. Zilch. Zip. Zero.

You better read back through some threads before you make that statement. Besides, should he have to lose all of those for people to see the obvious? This weeks game is huge for the program and Holgorsen.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

You better read back through some threads before you make that statement. Besides, should he have to lose all of those for people to see the obvious? This weeks game is huge for the program and Holgorsen.

Doesn't matter if Dana pulls together a good season, you'll find a reason to complain and when he's fired you'll do the same to our next coach.

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

I have said, I don't want a midseason firing. that serves no good purpose.

What is stupid, is seeing people already making assertions we should keep him for next year if we don't show we are a better team than we were when he took over.

I have yet to see a single, solitary, scattered among the idiocy, supportable assertion that this program is in better shape now and for 2016 than when Dana inherited the team.

In 2 months we've gone from "we've finally got it together with his players and now have the talent and depth he needs," to making insanely moronic excuses attempting to blame the performance in 2015 on someone who had his last fair chance to recruit in 2010, despite the fact the hamstrung 2011 recruiting class includes a number of our best players and that Dana has had FOUR FULL RECRUITING CLASSES with which to improve the team.

 

[HurdyGurdyEer]

There sure is a lot of gas being passed around these parts.

I know it makes people feel like they are on top of things by offering their own version of the definitive take on WVU football at this time. But nobody knows how this season will play out. Any opinion that imagines itself at this point to be the final word has about as much value as a fart.

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

That's STUPID because it would only apply if this was his first season not his 5th.

Of course, it is valid to assess a coach midway through his 5th season. Name the last unsuccessful coach we had who lasted 5 seasons.

It's not just that we aren't good this year, it's that we haven't been good since Dana took over (if 9-3 5-2 in the BE wasn't good under Rod and Stew, it wasn't good under Dana) and the only way to argue we are not trending down is to begin counting with his 3rd year when we were 4-8 (2-7).

Dana started out 15-3. People were absolutely lionizing him BECAUSE OF THAT RECORD.

Since then we are 16-24, 9-20 in the Big 12. It's BECAUSE OF THAT RECORD people are tired of his performance.

 

[GoWVU]

I am not a pro-Dana guy at all

Funny stuff, Keaton.

 

[GoWVU]

Guess I'm calling B.S. on that. If West Virginia loses the next five, which means dropping three home games as well as road trips to the two Kansas schools, then absolutely no one will support him. No one. Nada. Zilch. Zip. Zero.

I'll still take the over on that.

 

[KeatonsCorner]

Funny stuff, Keaton.

If Holgorsen doesn't get to .500, he has to go............. there? By .500, I mean 6-6 regular season too.

Shouldn't you be helping Unkie Jeff pack up for when he gets canned at Arizona? That guy must be on suicide watch after the things Washington did to him..........

 

[GoWVU]

If Holgorsen doesn't get to .500, he has to go............. there? By .500, I mean 6-6 regular season too.

Shouldn't you be helping Unkie Jeff pack up for when he gets canned at Arizona? That guy must be on suicide watch after the things Washington did to him..........

How could I? I'd be too busy dispatching the moving trucks to your Uncle Dana's house.

 

[MntnEERinSC]

I just think it's quite comical watching you guys argue over this, like any of y'all's opinions make a difference in the firing or keeping of Dana!! Why even try to sway anyone else's opinion? Is it that important to you to have the majority agree with you? I guess I just don't understand the need for either side to keep repeating the same stuff over and over!!

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

Who cares what happens to Casteel, Rodriguez, or any other human being who is not coaching our team?

It is baffling that you think attacking everyone who was ever associated with the program before Dana and/or belittling the abilities of coaches who have never been here somehow makes Dana look better.

It would seem self evident that if you think all those others suck then Dana must suck too. If you want to defend Dana, logic dictates you would call all those others over-achievers in order to make the case Dana's performance is actually a realistic norm and he is being unfairly compared to people at the top of the curve.

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

Who cares what happens to Casteel, Rodriguez, or any other human being who is not coaching our team?

It is baffling that you think attacking everyone who was ever associated with the program before Dana and/or belittling the abilities of coaches who have never been here somehow makes Dana look better.

It would seem self evident that if you think all those others suck then Dana must suck too. If you want to defend Dana, logic dictates you would call all those others over-achievers in order to make the case Dana's performance is actually a realistic norm and he is being unfairly compared to people at the top of the curve.

 

[TruWVblu]

If Holgorsen doesn't get to .500, he has to go............. there? By .500, I mean 6-6 regular season too.

Shouldn't you be helping Unkie Jeff pack up for when he gets canned at Arizona? That guy must be on suicide watch after the things Washington did to him..........

So, if he beats Texas Tech, Kansas, and Iowa State, the very bottom of the conference and possibly the bottom of the power 5 conferences, added to wins against a bad Maryland team, GA Southern, and a IAA team, in his 5th season, he deserves to stay? Wow, we have lowered the standards for our head coach, even below what we expected from our previous one.

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

I don't believe there is ANY argument that a 6-6 record, combined with what we know we are losing for next year, allows for any claim whatsoever the program is improving.

It would be 3-6 in conference in his 5th year and better than only his disaster of 2013.

7-5 would require a very good looking 7-5 ( a close loss in a well played game and at least 3 wins where we didn't win merely because the other team proved more inept) to even create a tenuous argument we are getting better.

Winning out would allow for an argument we have improved, given that we have haven't won 5 in a row since early 2012, and it would be a lot better than our 2-6, 1-6 and 1-4 finishes the past three seasons. Bear in mind though the only thing we would be demonstrably improved over is Dana's own previous performance. 5-4 is still mediocre and basically the same as last year when you consider Bama > GSU. It would still be very questionable whether this team is as good as the 2011 team he inherited or that the prospects on paper are better for 2016 than they were for 2012.

 

[Pushingtin]

Guess I'm calling B.S. on that. If West Virginia loses the next five, which means dropping three home games as well as road trips to the two Kansas schools, then absolutely no one will support him. No one. Nada. Zilch. Zip. Zero.

I beg to differ....Keats and others will still say recruiting is getting better and a change will only hurt recruiting and move us back 2 steps....its all Bullsh** but it is what they will say!!!

 

[Pushingtin]

So, if he beats Texas Tech, Kansas, and Iowa State, the very bottom of the conference, added to wins against a bad Maryland team, GA Southern, and a IAA team, in his 5th season, he deserves to stay? Wow, we have lowered the standards for our head coach, even below what we expected from our previous one.

Bingo.....we lost to the only good teams on our schedule. Texas Tech is an average decent team with no defense. Stew was fired and Dana was hired to not only beat the teams we are supposed to beat, but to beat the teams that we need to beat...though we were favored over Ok St

 

[TruWVblu]

Doesn't matter if Dana pulls together a good season, you'll find a reason to complain and when he's fired you'll do the same to our next coach.

Well, lets see him put one together and we will see how that goes. And by good, surely we are not talking wins against Kansas, Iowa State, and Maryland. Is it too much to ask to be a consistently good program? Not great...just good.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

Well, lets see him put one together and we will see how that goes. And by good, surely we are not talking wins against Kansas, Iowa State, and Maryland. Is it too much to ask to be a consistently good program? Not great...just good.

We'll have good seasons and bad seasons, no matter who is our coach. We've made a leap in competition, it will be harder to win with the consistency you feel your entitled to. Next time you want to see a game let me know and I'll inform the athletic office you're only interested in attending if they promise WVU will win be at least 50.

 

[KeatonsCorner]

So, if he beats Texas Tech, Kansas, and Iowa State, the very bottom of the conference and possibly the bottom of the power 5 conferences, added to wins against a bad Maryland team, GA Southern, and a IAA team, in his 5th season, he deserves to stay? Wow, we have lowered the standards for our head coach, even below what we expected from our previous one.

No, not really............. The difference is the previous guy used to lose to 2-win Colorado because he forgot to call a timeout........... and walk into ECU as a top-5 team and get stomped..........................

If Dana wins the games you stated above, it means he's winning the ones everyone expects him to win............. something Stewart struggled mightily with...