The myth that our recruiting had significantly improved has been debunked. Stewart, Rodriguez, and Holgorsen all recruited at the same level. Well, except for this year, which is atrocious, so far...
Dana and his recruiting classes
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Dabo's biggest problem was the dumbass QB named Boyd who for 4 years made big mistake after big mistake.
yes, it was good conversation but this board got away from this several years ago. This board almost was a second home to me but the older guys have moved on and the new guys think they are smarter then everyone else.
I did look at Vernons chart. Redshirt freshman is not a signing class. Those guys were part of the the 2014 class, as were most of the guys in column c, i.e. The sophomore class. These were players that the coaches chose to apply for a red shirt year and thus still have four years starting this year. The 8 shown in column b "red shirt" is not all that is left of the 2014 class, most of those in column c "sophomore" were also part of the 2014 signing class. White of course was part of 2015 class. Some other JUCOs in 2014 were juniors this year. So, no saying there are only 8 of 22 left from 2014 is totally incorrect. But I suspect you know that , if so this is really weak troll bait. You need to try harder.
Only 1 player from The state of Florida currently Committed in this years class. What's up with that?
Im not really sure what you are talking about but having classes with 13 and 8 are very bad for our program. No matter how you cut this the low numbers in these two classes create problems down the road.
Dana has never really liked Florida recruiting...says to many social issues
So, Dana doesn't like recruiting Florida? Take a look at the current roster and tell me what % of the team comes from Florida. He would be wise to not give up the ship. Remember, there ain't but three or maybe four 'speed' states according to Jimmy The Greek. Warez
I love recruiting florida but we only 4 kids last year and two of them are gone. Dana wanted to get out of Florida a couple years ago and Ollie said no way
Too bad Stew's not around to celebrate. Maybe one of the fan club should call Dunlap and let him know WVU football is tanking.
the program is not tanking but we were also promised that wvu would compete at a high level and the current records Dana is putting up is just average in a conference that as had a losing record in bowl games the last two years. If the rumor is true that another player from the redshirt freshman class may leave that will give us a total of 6 in that class, so we have room for concern.
The wheels are coming off? - Look being blind to the positives is no different than being blind to the negatives. Also, when the extension was given to DH after the Orange Bowl did you say it was a joke then? I doubt it. BTW, that's how you do business in major college football. Look around at other programs
I thought the extension was a bad idea after the Orange Bowl. We didn't play great that whole season and DH was still unproven....the team just did enough in a year when the Big East wasn't very good. I had no issue with giving him a raise after the game but not more guaranteed years. JMO
Hind sight is 20/20 with the extension after the Orange Bowl. Dana was a hot commodity then if he would have followed it up with another good year he would have been easy for a blue blood to pouch if the extension hadn't been given.
Actually, that's another reason why the Luck extension was so stupid. That deal did nothing to prevent a blue blood program from hiring him away but locked us into owing an unproven coach over 15 million dollars no matter how he performed.
It was unquestionably one of the worst deals ever agreed to by a major college program.
It was unquestionably one of the worst deals ever agreed to by a major college program.
yes, they do but we only have 7 of 22. Do you know what that does when this group is seniors? We will have very little experience and leadership. Terrible! Second. This issue was used by fans and Ollie to fired Stew and now Dana is doing the same thing.
so yes it does happen everywhere, but our fans did not want to hear that when Stew was our coach.
Cant have it both ways
It really matters little if a player enrolls and leaves without ever contributing or fails to enroll. To the extent it makes a difference, it might actually be preferable to learn earlier that the player won't contribute. A player who doesn't enroll gives you more advance notice that you need someone at that position in a subsequent class.
If you sign Player A and Player B in February of 2016 and Player A doesn't get in, you know right away where a need will exist in the future. If player B gets in redshirts one year, plays little or not at all his second year and then leaves, you learn later in the game about the need that will exist in the next 2 years.
Some attrition is built into the system: 25 per year but with an 85 overall cap
can be viewed as meaning 31% attrition, give or take a little, is expected. Meaning as long as you generally have 17-18 make it through from each class you are operating at expected peak efficiency. Not being at "peak" efficiency is unsurprising and quite possibly the norm. If you had a team that only retained 11-12 players per class all the way through, you might have a roster that would look something like:
11 senior eligibility
14 junior eligibility
18 sophomore eligibility
19 RS frosh
4 true frosh active
19 true frosh sitting out
That's 66 active players and 85 on the roster. If you have that your real issue is not depth but how good are the best 40 or so active players.
If you sign Player A and Player B in February of 2016 and Player A doesn't get in, you know right away where a need will exist in the future. If player B gets in redshirts one year, plays little or not at all his second year and then leaves, you learn later in the game about the need that will exist in the next 2 years.
Some attrition is built into the system: 25 per year but with an 85 overall cap
can be viewed as meaning 31% attrition, give or take a little, is expected. Meaning as long as you generally have 17-18 make it through from each class you are operating at expected peak efficiency. Not being at "peak" efficiency is unsurprising and quite possibly the norm. If you had a team that only retained 11-12 players per class all the way through, you might have a roster that would look something like:
11 senior eligibility
14 junior eligibility
18 sophomore eligibility
19 RS frosh
4 true frosh active
19 true frosh sitting out
That's 66 active players and 85 on the roster. If you have that your real issue is not depth but how good are the best 40 or so active players.
LMD...............you go to great lengths to come up with something to say. OK, I don't read a post that is more than 4 lines in length since my attention span is so short. I have other problems but........................you get the drift.
it actually game from oliver luck. but he was targeting lifs.
that said, we will need to sign 15+ jucos in the next 2 years to make up for those bad classes
The drift I get is that you are a boob. You feel it necessary to make a post proclaiming you won't read other posts. That shows you are the one trying too hard to find something to say.
I've NEVER seen you post anything that adds one iota of value to a discussion. Apparently you amuse yourself by coming across as a moron. Either that or you are just trying to fit in with the "High Info" crowd.
I've NEVER seen you post anything that adds one iota of value to a discussion. Apparently you amuse yourself by coming across as a moron. Either that or you are just trying to fit in with the "High Info" crowd.
LMD..................why you call me a Lil Moe Ron? I post nothing but high quality stuff and you know it and you jealous. Dadgummit. Now................if I take back my previous post that drifted you......will you apologize for my lack of attention span?
