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Coach DeVries beats a ranked team in his first 5 games. Brown hasn’t done it in 6 years.

He not only already beat a highly ranked team but he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who is going to sit there and make excuses for 45 minutes after every game when he doesn't. Other than the spitt game it has been a great start to the basketball season for sure!
 
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Basketball is not the same if you really want to stir the pot then ask all the Huggins lovers why we have a coach that can beat a team that he couldn't. Better yet ask why the world hasn't ended.
I agreed it was time for Huggins to step aside. Regardless of the DUI or slurs. It was just that time. I’m aware basketball is not the same sport. It doesn’t change the facts.
 
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I agreed it was time for Huggins to step aside. Regardless of the DUI or slurs. It was just that time. I’m aware basketball is not the same sport. It doesn’t change the facts.
The fact is basketball has nothing to do with football. Beilen beat a top 10 Florida team in his 1st season, and we ended up with a losing record. This game may mean nothing in the grand scheme if we don't build on it. Brown has technically beaten 3 teams that were ranked none of them finished ranked. Wvu football as a whole has only beaten two teams that finished the season ranked since 2014.
 
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The fact is basketball has nothing to do with football. Beilen beat a top 10 Florida team in his 1st season, and we ended up with a losing record. This game may mean nothing in the grand scheme if we don't build on it. Brown has technically beaten 3 teams that were ranked none of them finished ranked. Wvu football as a whole has only beaten two teams that finished the season ranked since 2014.

The fact is the basketball game that happened in the middle of the afternoon was more exciting than any football game we've had in the last 6 years. You can nitpick the differences between basketball and football and nitpick little stats about Neil Brown but the bottom line is, when you play up to your competition, that's a sign of good coaching. That's something the football team can't do under Brown
 
He not only already beat a highly ranked team but he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who is going to sit there and make excuses for 45 minutes after every game when he doesn't. Other than the spitt game it has been a great start to the basketball season for sure!
There's going to be a few more Pitt type games just like there will be more Gonzaga type games.

Let's hope more of the Gonzaga type wins occur.
 
Nice to celebrate beating Gonzaga while beating Louisville,
additionally today, hopefully.

Overall Back to WVU football- But you all are Great at "stomping out" - becoming bowl eligible, Buzz.

We all live vicariously through
West Virginia wins & loses.

But No West Virginia coach has to deal with playing Penn State & Pittsburgh - while playing a modern b12 schedule & fan insecurities.


Enjoy because most forget,
it's the players playing the actual games.

Your constant Negativity is hurting recruiting of new & future Mountaineers, same for existing WVU Roster.

Live with it.

Happy Thanksgiving
 
Nice to celebrate beating Gonzaga while beating Louisville,
additionally today, hopefully.

Overall Back to WVU football- But you all are Great at "stomping out" - becoming bowl eligible, Buzz.

We all live vicariously through
West Virginia wins & loses.

But No West Virginia coach has to deal with playing Penn State & Pittsburgh - while playing a modern b12 schedule & fan insecurities.


Enjoy because most forget,
it's the players playing the actual games.

Your constant Negativity is hurting recruiting of new & future Mountaineers, same for existing WVU Roster.

Live with it.

Happy Thanksgiving

Yeah blame the fans for the failures of the worst coach in 50 years lol. Weak as heck, but no shocker coming from a defeatist. I root for the WVU Mountaineers not the WVU Neal Browns.
 
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I agreed it was time for Huggins to step aside. Regardless of the DUI or slurs. It was just that time. I’m aware basketball is not the same sport. It doesn’t change the facts.

The fact is the basketball game that happened in the middle of the afternoon was more exciting than any football game we've had in the last 6 years. You can nitpick the differences between basketball and football and nitpick little stats about Neil Brown but the bottom line is, when you play up to your competition, that's a sign of good coaching. That's something the football team can't do under Brown
When Appy state beat Michigan in football it was an upset for the ages. When an unranked team beats a ranked team in Basketball it may or may not mean anything. These types of upsets happen all the time. Josh Eilert beat Kansas and Texas last season and both where ranked. It didn't change the fact that we finished 9-23. There are many things to criticize Brown about but comparing Football results to that of Basketball is a stretch. One has nothing to do with the other.
 
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When Appy state beat Michigan in football it was an upset for the ages. When an unranked team beats a ranked team in Basketball it may or may not mean anything. These types of upsets happen all the time. Josh Eilert beat Kansas and Texas last season and both where ranked. It didn't change the fact that we finished 9-23. There are many things to criticize Brown about but comparing Football results to that of Basketball is a stretch. One has nothing to do with the other.
Except Neal Brown never upsets anyone. So it doesn’t happen all the time. It just happens everywhere else.
 
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Neal Brown also isn't a Basketball coach now is he?
I gave Neal Brown a chance. You know that. Most of us did. It’s time for everyone to finally acknowledge this guy isn’t getting it done. We defended this guy relentlessly on this board. We were wrong. The point is, he’s not coaching his players up. We don’t win against the good teams. We beat only the average 4-6 win teams. Good coaches upset good to great teams. Neal Brown seems to be a great person, but it’s time to move on.
 
When Appy state beat Michigan in football it was an upset for the ages. When an unranked team beats a ranked team in Basketball it may or may not mean anything. These types of upsets happen all the time. Josh Eilert beat Kansas and Texas last season and both where ranked. It didn't change the fact that we finished 9-23. There are many things to criticize Brown about but comparing Football results to that of Basketball is a stretch. One has nothing to do with the other.

Most of Mountaineer nation are comparing Neal Browns boring football results in the last 6 years to Devries exciting basketball results in the last couple of days. It just is what it is. Even former players are comparing them. Not because they are similar sports, but because they just get it as fans who love WVU. If you don't get it, or understand it, it's not my fault.
 
He not only already beat a highly ranked team but he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who is going to sit there and make excuses for 45 minutes after every game when he doesn't. Other than the spitt game it has been a great start to the basketball season for sure!
After tonight's loss he took full blame for it.
 
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After tonight's loss he took full blame for it.

That's what a good leader of men should do. The books and clinics I've taken in to learn how to be a better leader myself is what led me to jump off the Brown bandwagon 3 years ago. When you listen to Brown talk, his demeanor and words tell the story. His mediocrity was and still is predictable because of it, imo. It doesn't take a lot to realize that he doesn't really care about winning. He has a modern, "participation trophy" style about him that is just not going to cut it on this level.
 
Considering you all's employment
criteria (established by the board)
DeViers needs to be Fired- based on his abilities to have Significant & Signature wins -
& not park on a Pittsburgh Curb.

Wvu criteria & Happy Thanksgiving
 
That's what a good leader of men should do. The books and clinics I've taken in to learn how to be a better leader myself is what led me to jump off the Brown bandwagon 3 years ago. When you listen to Brown talk, his demeanor and words tell the story. His mediocrity was and still is predictable because of it, imo. It doesn't take a lot to realize that he doesn't really care about winning. He has a modern, "participation trophy" style about him that is just not going to cut it on this level.
When he told the fans he understood they wanted to win BUT asked if they had a good time tailgating because the weather was nice, that told me he doesn’t care if we win or not. He took the job for granted. It also showed me Baker and WVU didn’t care either because he obviously felt no pressure to win. That’s unacceptable to me and it should be unacceptable to any Mountaineer fan. If it were Rodriguez or Nehlen, they would be telling us in their postgame pressers this was unacceptable as well. They wouldn’t be smiling about the atmosphere and weather.
 
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When he told the fans he understood they wanted to win BUT asked if they had a good time tailgating because the weather was nice, that told me he doesn’t care if we win or not. He took the job for granted. It also showed me Baker and WVU didn’t care either because he obviously felt no pressure to win. That’s unacceptable to me and it should be unacceptable to any Mountaineer fan. If it were Rodriguez or Nehlen, they would be telling us in their postgame pressers this was unacceptable as well. They wouldn’t be smiling about the atmosphere and weather.
I think Wren Baker is the best AD we've had in 20 years. Thanks goes to Shane for putting us into an impossible situation and being negative on NIL. Firing Shane was the best move ever.

But if Wren doesn't fire Brown after Saturday then he needs to go. I believe Saturday is Brown's last day at WVU.
 
I think Wren Baker is the best AD we've had in 20 years. Thanks goes to Shane for putting us into an impossible situation and being negative on NIL. Firing Shane was the best move ever.

But if Wren doesn't fire Brown after Saturday then he needs to go. I believe Saturday is Brown's last day at WVU.
I’ll be shocked if he’s gone after Texas Tech. I’d say they let him coach in the bowl. I may be wrong. If he wins tomorrow and wins a bowl, he’s 8-5. Would that change things? Possibly. I’d like him gone regardless.
 
I think Wren Baker is the best AD we've had in 20 years. Thanks goes to Shane for putting us into an impossible situation and being negative on NIL. Firing Shane was the best move ever.

But if Wren doesn't fire Brown after Saturday then he needs to go. I believe Saturday is Brown's last day at WVU.
You're great at spending
someone else's money.

Free firing without consideration for total financial impact is emotional & immature, especially without celebrating bowl eligibility.

Wait and see
 
Can him and send him out the door or stay .500
Can you agree to stop posting here (till Christmas) if Neal Brown is retained just after TT.

You opinions are negative during the most critical recruiting season and would be considering damaging.
 
No but you seemed scared

NB is totally responsible for recruiting the roster
I was fine with NB until this year. Over hyped the team and claims of greatness for the season with a PSU victory. With the fire power returning on offense you would think a good coach would know how to use them and score victories. He failed.
 
Nobody is scared. We are disgusted with the results. And yes, NB is responsible for the roster. So why are you worried about a poster on a message board?
Oh it's mofo's fault.

Plse Stop bad Mouthing WestVirginia (constantly)

and let them play vs TT and Bowl opponent.
 
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