Cincy not the only one spending money for a lottery ticket
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I read the article about CSU and this is my reaction: That is a beautiful little stadium on the inside, including the press box and luxury suites. The outside is totally unimpressive with exposed steel beams supporting the stands. When you spend a quarter of a billion dollars on a stadium seating 41k you are truly not reaching very high except in your current conference. I'm only commenting on CSU here because I believe each school should be critiqued on their own.
I checked out the new Tulane University Stadium and it looks more like baseball park made for football. It is attractive in the style of construction but seats only 30k. Not a serious contestant.
The new Houston Stadium has the right idea because even though it seats only 40k, it is made for expansion. They still cut $200 million from the costs by putting up a flimsy facade to cover the steel beams. Oklahoma State did it right. Regarding Cincy: Their Nippert Stadium looks great, but if you are serious about joining a power 5 conference, show us the plans to add at least 10k seats to your 40k seat stadium. JMHO!
Houston does nothing to expand the conferences footprint. 4 schools in the state of Texas is enough. CSU is in a nice location. And Tulane is a program is going nowhere. Cincy & Memphis are my choice but I would be happy with Cincy & CSU.
And FYI both TCU and Baylor seat approx. 45K.
And I do not care what a stadium looks like from the outside. It is the inside and service areas that count. I get tired of reading where some want to brick the exterior of Mountaineer Field.
And FYI both TCU and Baylor seat approx. 45K.
And I do not care what a stadium looks like from the outside. It is the inside and service areas that count. I get tired of reading where some want to brick the exterior of Mountaineer Field.
Nothing wrong with Memphis or CSU, except their size and number of TV sets. Cincy and USF bring much more to the table including the size of the schools, dedication to upgrading athletics and of course, having a metro population outside of the current Big 12 footprint of over 5 million people together doesn't hurt. Plus you enter two states with a combined population of 30 million currently outside of your present geography.
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Cincinnati has a good deal with the Bengals Paul Brown Stadium. For games that expect a huge draw, they move from Nippert to Paul Brown. WVU played Cincinnati in the past at Paul Brown. Nippert is not going to be easy to expand much beyond what it has, it is a VERY old stadium but for many games it will do just fine. Considering the distance from most of the Big-12 to Cincinnati, travelers are not going to gobble up huge seat numbers. If any game looks to be a big deal, move the game to the NFL stadium. This is a smart set up for Cincinnati and school like Pitt should have taken notice.
Selling out a 35,000 seat venue for small games looks nice on TV as viewers seldom count heads but rather notice empty sections of seating. When the big games come along, it is down on the river they go. I don't see a problem.
Excellent point. You get no argument here. I would imagine Oklahoma, Texas, WVU and a couple of others would bring in 65k at Paul Brown Stadium especially if Cincy beat a couple of Big 12 teams not named Kansas or Iowa State.
There will have to be a network before expansion happens. If their is a network, UCONN will get the nod as they have the New York market. Cincy is behind the Florida schools when it comes to eyeballs. Money will trump all. Big 12 will then wait on a Big 10 raid of the ACC. If that happens we will increase the footprint by taking at least two ACC teams and as many as four. By the way, I have no inside sources and just making an educated guess. JMO, no need to get nasty with responses.
Hey, CaliforniaMountaineer, we're all just guessing and debating what will happen. When all is said and done, much more will be said than done but one of us should turn out damn near right in our predictions. We're so all over the map someone has to be.
You are correct we have all bases covered from
- No expansion,
- 20 teams expansion,
- ACC merger
- Discingration of the conference
its not hard to tell which people enjoy intellectual and stimulating conversation and which people think their opinions are the only thing that matters...
You are so right, everyone's opinion except for mine is wrong. (especially that who will not be named)
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Your criteria is not how to be successful in today's college sports. If you want to be successful, you have to have facilities to attract the players. That's not really about how things look. It's about what's available for the players to use. If you want to impress recruits, you need enhanced locker rooms, training rooms, weight rooms, players' lounges, meeting rooms, etc. That what really matters. Having some steel beams exposed isn't going to matter to recruits. What matters is the stuff they actually get to use.
The other issue is, you only build what you can fill. It's definitely not going to impress recruits if Cincinnati or Colorado St build 80,000 seat stadiums, and it's only half-full for games.
does UCONN really want to travel all the way to Texas for games? i will be surprise if so. you talk about travel expense!
I agree with what your saying, but the context was simply comparing stadiums. I am very impressed with what Oklahoma State did. Puskar would look good with that effect.
They would join the PAC and travel all the way to LA if it meant having a seat at the BIG table.
Cincinnati could be spending money just to dominate their league. All these G5 conferences still have to compete with their peers. Whether they get an invite to the P5 would just be icing on the cake. It doesn't mean they have the inside track to a BIG12 invite, it just means they are investing in their future and positioning themselves to take advantage of opportunities. I can't believe people are actually excited about adding Cinncy. They may well be the best of the rest but that doesn't translate into enthusiasm for me.
UC is doing this to improve their resume to the Big-12. This is not about being competitive with their peers in AAC as UC has better facilities than any ACC member. The current capacity of Nippert is 40,000 and there is a plan to extend the second deck around stadium and add another 10,000 to 15,000 seats, raising capacity to 50-55,000. They are also almost ready to do an 87 million dollar expansion on their basketball arena, the Fifth Third Center.
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...pansion-possible-if-uc-joins-big-12/80405222/
Cincy's school president is actively lobbying Big 12 representatives and openly admits his goal is to become a member of the Big 12. He is even taking advice from former Big 12 school officials on his best way to do it.
There are multiple schools talking with the BIG12, and the conference will give each program advice on how to better their chances of getting an invite to the conference.
Personally if expansion does come with G5 programs, I hope it UC and UCF. Either way expansion without adding Fla is not wise.
The same can be said for Colorado State. They have been very open about trying to get into the Big12.
Yes they do. They would walk to Texas if they had to. The real question is "Does Texas and Oklahoma and Baylor and TT, and TCU and OKSTate and Iowa State and the two Kansas schools want to travel to Connecticut on a regular basis?" 8 schools have to vote for this and I think the answer will ultimately be no.
