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WVU Release Bob Bowlsby stepping down

OU and especially Texas used the BIG 12 as a cash cow. They hamstrung the rest of the conference and the commissioner to threaten them into not acting in their own best interest For years. Texas and OU were not more relevant than say Clemson in the ACC, Ohio State in the Big Ten, or Alabama in the SEC—- but they and their media machine always acted as though they were something more. Those other schools didn’t demand special treatment, but an agenda driven social media and even bigger media campaign demanded special treatment for OU and UT which weren’t approaching the level of accomplishment for the conference as Alabama, OSU and Clemson did for their conferences. Bowlsby wasn’t able to act as say, Jim Delaney and take proactive actions to better everyone‘s situation— he was controlled by OU and especially UT and couldn’t do anything without their ok.


They lied to his face and everyone else’s while negotiating behind their backs- while at the same time sitting in on the highest level meetings and negotiations and making sure the conference couldn’t achieve anything that would supersede the plans Ou and UT made for themselves. And now they have a campaign out to smear the conference and commissioner to make it seem as though the commissioner and conference are at fault.
Texas Oklahoma might regret this move. Maybe.

But money does pay the freight, so to speak.

West Virginia to be more assertive and stop playing the Victim.
 
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Texas Oklahoma might regret this move. Maybe.

But money does pay the freight, so to speak.

West Virginia to be more assertive and stop playing the Victim.
When people stab you in the back, you aren’t “ playing the victim” by pointing it out. One could argue that WVU was largely responsible for the financial and other successes that OU and UT received over the past decade— after all WVU by leaving the Big East early and accepting a long buy in allowed Texas and Oklahoma to keep the BIg 12 together so they could enrich themselves And achieve athletic success too.

Since they will be paid sweetly and won’t have to deal with the constant negativity that they helped create for the BIG 12 they’ll undoubtedly be happy. It’s doubtful in a much larger conference where all schools are getting a similar amount of revenue and lots of positive recruiting exposure that they’ll have athletic success like they’ve enjoyed though— of course with an 8 game conference schedule in some ways it will be easier. Texas is likely to be buried though.

All WVU can do is restore their athletic success, work to gain better academic rankings and increase research and do their best to help the conference select the best possible commissioner.
 
Big 12 commissioner used OU and Texas as a cash cow. OU and Texas left the Big 12 mainly because of Bowlsby, and of course a chance for a bigger payday. Now Bob Bowlsby is stepping down as commissioner, burned all the bridges than left like a coward. Let's be honest here, Bowlsby screwed us over, but winning will take care of a lot of this.
You are apparently a little slow. You need to go back to the kiddie table because your responses smack of immaturity.
 
Texas Oklahoma might regret this move. Maybe.

But money does pay the freight, so to speak.

West Virginia to be more assertive and stop playing the Victim.
They are going to regret it. They will love the $$$ but they will move way down the pecking order. Texas is going to be miserable because their sense of entitlement knows no bounds, and they will not win an SEC football title for the next two decades. OU will compete better but they might win one in the next decade, but maybe not. Lincoln Riley wanted no part of the SEC, and could you blame him?
 
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The BIG 12 has Texas, Ohio, Florida,Kansas, Iowa, Utah, WV, Oklahoma. BYU has a very large support system that is global.

The footprint will substantially increase from what it was.

Your negativity is your own wishful thinking.

Now the “blue blood” aspect is just one factor. Schools like Baylor, TCU, Cincinnati, UCF have had much more on-field success than many so called blue bloods. Basketball is tops in the nation still- maybe better. Football loses OU, but Texas hasnt been nearly as good as the majority of the existing league.

Its a challenge but the BIG 12s ratings have been superior to two power leagues. There is alot of upside and there are more media outlets than ever.
The big 12 has nothing . The new schools being added don't come anywhere close to delivering what Texas and Oklahoma brought to the conference. The payday that Texas and Oklahoma will make in the Sec will far exceed what the big 12 will give them. Only a fool can't see that.
 
The big 12 has nothing . The new schools being added don't come anywhere close to delivering what Texas and Oklahoma brought to the conference. The payday that Texas and Oklahoma will make in the Sec will far exceed what the big 12 will give them. Only a fool can't see that.
Money or success, which do you choose? If you are a coach, you can’t get one without the other and your longevity is cut short…..just ask Lincoln Riley
 
Money or success, which do you choose? If you are a coach, you can’t get one without the other and your longevity is cut short…..just ask Lincoln Riley
Schools choose money whether its the right choice or not and playing in the Sec is a much bigger paycheck than what the Big 12 brings.
 
The big 12 has nothing . The new schools being added don't come anywhere close to delivering what Texas and Oklahoma brought to the conference. The payday that Texas and Oklahoma will make in the Sec will far exceed what the big 12 will give them. Only a fool can't see that.
The BIG 12 has a tremendous amount and more athletic success than the ACC or PAC in football. Just this past season the new and existing members went like 5-1 but against the supposedly superior SEC. Houston beat Auburn, Kansas State crushed LSU, Texas Tech crushed Mississippi State, Baylor beat up Ole Miss by double digits, UCF beat Florida. The BIG 12 has been in four or five straight Final Fours in basketball and won two national championships.

The conference that will continue has lots of footprint, lots of high level athletic Teams capable of competing for and winning championships. It has state flagship schools and most schools are top tier research institutions. Some media outlets are going to recognize this Undoubtedly.
 
When people stab you in the back, you aren’t “ playing the victim” by pointing it out. One could argue that WVU was largely responsible for the financial and other successes that OU and UT received over the past decade— after all WVU by leaving the Big East early and accepting a long buy in allowed Texas and Oklahoma to keep the BIg 12 together so they could enrich themselves And achieve athletic success too.

Since they will be paid sweetly and won’t have to deal with the constant negativity that they helped create for the BIG 12 they’ll undoubtedly be happy. It’s doubtful in a much larger conference where all schools are getting a similar amount of revenue and lots of positive recruiting exposure that they’ll have athletic success like they’ve enjoyed though— of course with an 8 game conference schedule in some ways it will be easier. Texas is likely to be buried though.

All WVU can do is restore their athletic success, work to gain better academic rankings and increase research and do their best to help the conference select the best possible commissioner.
"One could argue" that the Moon is made of cheese or that the Earth is flat, but one would be delusional, if one were to do so.
 
They are going to regret it. They will love the $$$ but they will move way down the pecking order. Texas is going to be miserable because their sense of entitlement knows no bounds, and they will not win an SEC football title for the next two decades. OU will compete better but they might win one in the next decade, but maybe not. Lincoln Riley wanted no part of the SEC, and could you blame him?
Well said
 
The BIG 12 has a tremendous amount and more athletic success than the ACC or PAC in football. Just this past season the new and existing members went like 5-1 but against the supposedly superior SEC. Houston beat Auburn, Kansas State crushed LSU, Texas Tech crushed Mississippi State, Baylor beat up Ole Miss by double digits, UCF beat Florida. The BIG 12 has been in four or five straight Final Fours in basketball and won two national championships.

The conference that will continue has lots of footprint, lots of high level athletic Teams capable of competing for and winning championships. It has state flagship schools and most schools are top tier research institutions. Some media outlets are going to recognize this Undoubtedly.
For starts conference expansion is driven by football not basketball. A 68 team tourney is much more inclusive than a 4 team tourney. The big 12 hasn't won a national championship in football in over 15 years and hasn't played for one in over ten years. Trying to tout accomplishments of teams that are not in the bIg 12 is bogus. How do you know they would have even made a bowl game if they played a power 5 schedule. Wvu's success in the mid 2000's didn't lead to an acc invite but somehow the pitts of the world ended up there. If the big 12 has had a tremendous amount of more success than the Acc than why do Clemson and Fsu have national championships in the last 10 years while no Big 12 team has played for one. The pac hasn't had much success but they have a bigger demographic profile than the big 12 and still have a blue blood remaining in their conference.
 
For starts conference expansion is driven by football not basketball. A 68 team tourney is much more inclusive than a 4 team tourney. The big 12 hasn't won a national championship in football in over 15 years and hasn't played for one in over ten years. Trying to tout accomplishments of teams that are not in the bIg 12 is bogus. How do you know they would have even made a bowl game if they played a power 5 schedule. Wvu's success in the mid 2000's didn't lead to an acc invite but somehow the pitts of the world ended up there. If the big 12 has had a tremendous amount of more success than the Acc than why do Clemson and Fsu have national championships in the last 10 years while no Big 12 team has played for one. The pac hasn't had much success but they have a bigger demographic profile than the big 12 and still have a blue blood remaining in their conference.
That P12 “blue blood” has reached out to the B10 recently. The B12 is in better position then both the P12 & ACC, but for different reasons. The P12 has been run into the ground by Larry Scott & Co, and they are a bit isolated geographically in a time zone that doesn’t care about college football. They are attempting to maintain status quo and it will kill them. The ACC just has an anchor around their neck with a crappy TV deal that runs forever. The B12 is being proactive and will be the better for it.
 
That P12 “blue blood” has reached out to the B10 recently. The B12 is in better position then both the P12 & ACC, but for different reasons. The P12 has been run into the ground by Larry Scott & Co, and they are a bit isolated geographically in a time zone that doesn’t care about college football. They are attempting to maintain status quo and it will kill them. The ACC just has an anchor around their neck with a crappy TV deal that runs forever. The B12 is being proactive and will be the better for it.
I haven't seen any evidence that any Pac 12 team has reached out to the Big 10. The pac 12's contract is up for renewal so now would be a good time to leave. The Acc contract isn't very good but the new big 12's won't be that good either. In the last 30 years not one team has left the Pac 12. Only one team has left the Acc. Half the original members have left the big 12. That tells you all you need to know. The ACC , Big 10 and Pac 10 created their phony alliance and left the Big 12 out. Its because everyone knows the Big 12 is the last dog at the bowl.
 
I haven't seen any evidence that any Pac 12 team has reached out to the Big 10. The pac 12's contract is up for renewal so now would be a good time to leave. The Acc contract isn't very good but the new big 12's won't be that good either. In the last 30 years not one team has left the Pac 12. Only one team has left the Acc. Half the original members have left the big 12. That tells you all you need to know. The ACC , Big 10 and Pac 10 created their phony alliance and left the Big 12 out. Its because everyone knows the Big 12 is the last dog at the bowl.
USC reached out to the B10.

Use some common sense in your post for goodness sake. The B12 was excluded from the alliance because two future SEC schools are still part of the B12. The alliance was just a show of force. When the current CFP agreement runs out in 25 or 26, all it will take is a majority to change the format. Currently it takes a unanimous vote to change the CFP because it is under contract.
 
"One could argue" that the Moon is made of cheese or that the Earth is flat, but one would be delusional, if one were to do so.
When you have a rational argument to debate that WVU indeed helped OU and UT, get back to the board with your evidence- obviously doesn’t fit your trolling antiWVU ranting, but reality is reality.
 
When people stab you in the back, you aren’t “ playing the victim” by pointing it out. One could argue that WVU was largely responsible for the financial and other successes that OU and UT received over the past decade— after all WVU by leaving the Big East early and accepting a long buy in allowed Texas and Oklahoma to keep the BIg 12 together so they could enrich themselves And achieve athletic success too.

When you have a rational argument to debate that WVU indeed helped OU and UT, get back to the board with your evidence- obviously doesn’t fit your trolling antiWVU ranting, but reality is reality.
You're back-pedaling and moving back the proverbial goal posts from arguing that WVU was "largely responsible" for OU and Texas' "financial and other successes" to "WVU indeed helped OU and UT," and for good reason. Even you know that your first argument is total bullsh!t and shameless propaganda, which is what your political rants are, as well. Texas prints money, whether WVU is playing in its conference or not, and O.U. has carried the Big 12 in football for many years. WVU benefited more financially than either Texas or O.U. did by the former's joining the Big 12, but only you are too delusional to understand this obvious fact.
 
When you have a rational argument to debate that WVU indeed helped OU and UT, get back to the board with your evidence- obviously doesn’t fit your trolling antiWVU ranting, but reality is reality.
You've lost your little mind.
 
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You are obviously another TVZ profile.

If you can't handle getting your ass handed to you then I suggest you run along to mommy.
Yep, confirmed it….teenagers can post anywhere so that is why there is premium content….. Run along sport
 
Yep, confirmed it….teenagers can post anywhere so that is why there is premium content….. Run along sport
Yep confirmed. apparently a dumbass such as yourself can create multiple profiles. Now scram as I talk sports in the blue lot and not this sand pit of shit.
 
I haven't seen any evidence that any Pac 12 team has reached out to the Big 10. The pac 12's contract is up for renewal so now would be a good time to leave. The Acc contract isn't very good but the new big 12's won't be that good either. In the last 30 years not one team has left the Pac 12. Only one team has left the Acc. Half the original members have left the big 12. That tells you all you need to know. The ACC , Big 10 and Pac 10 created their phony alliance and left the Big 12 out. Its because everyone knows the Big 12 is the last dog at the bowl.
How exactly do you know what the BIG 12s contract is going to be when it’s not even being negotiated for a year or two
For starts conference expansion is driven by football not basketball. A 68 team tourney is much more inclusive than a 4 team tourney. The big 12 hasn't won a national championship in football in over 15 years and hasn't played for one in over ten years. Trying to tout accomplishments of teams that are not in the bIg 12 is bogus. How do you know they would have even made a bowl game if they played a power 5 schedule. Wvu's success in the mid 2000's didn't lead to an acc invite but somehow the pitts of the world ended up there. If the big 12 has had a tremendous amount of more success than the Acc than why do Clemson and Fsu have national championships in the last 10 years while no Big 12 team has played for one. The pac hasn't had much success but they have a bigger demographic profile than the big 12 and still have a blue blood remaining in their conference.
The BIG 12 has also been left out of the CCG with deserving teams 2 or 3 times— they can’t control that. It’s not bogus to tout accomplishments of teams that have agreed to become members anymore than the SEC is touting the addition of its new members. You’ve been doing that yourself hypocrite. National championships are won by teams. The ACC has had more teams in the playoff because 1). ESPN which currently owns the playoffs has a financial stake in seeing that conference improve on the football field due to their financial stake in the ACC network and b). The ACC is a much easier top to Bottom conference to win and to get rankings which then put you into the playoff. Also C, they play an 8 game schedule, many ACC teams until recently didn’t play a P5 OOC and then Loaded up on cupcakes in and out of conference. Look at the last few years bowl record or OOC in season record for existing and incoming members vs other conferences and it’s clear the BIG 12 is one of the best OOC. In conference there hasn’t been a tougher league to win with nearly all teams competitive , a round robin schedule and a rematch CCG every year. And regarding expansion, the BIG 12 is adding four of the most successful athletic programs- all of whom have been better than Texas and some even with OU recently— 4of the most successful football programs the past decade. Once they have P5 schedules and resources the sky is the limit.
 
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USC reached out to the B10.

Use some common sense in your post for goodness sake. The B12 was excluded from the alliance because two future SEC schools are still part of the B12. The alliance was just a show of force. When the current CFP agreement runs out in 25 or 26, all it will take is a majority to change the format. Currently it takes a unanimous vote to change the CFP because it is under contract.
I live in Pac 12 country and haven't seen any legitimate source that has linked Usc to the Big 10. The only people claiming this is a bunch of BS artists hanging out on message boards. Post a link from a legitimate source and maybe I will see some credence in it. When it comes to common sense it isn't that hard to figure out the long term direction of the big 12. The big 12 is the new big east.
 
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How exactly do you know what the BIG 12s contract is going to be when it’s not even being negotiated for a year or two

The BIG 12 has also been left out of the CCG with deserving teams 2 or 3 times— they can’t control that. It’s not bogus to tout accomplishments of teams that have agreed to become members anymore than the SEC is touting the addition of its new members. You’ve been doing that yourself hypocrite. National championships are won by teams. The ACC has had more teams in the playoff because 1). ESPN which currently owns the playoffs has a financial stake in seeing that conference improve on the football field due to their financial stake in the ACC network and b). The ACC is a much easier top to Bottom conference to win and to get rankings which then put you into the playoff. Also C, they play an 8 game schedule, many ACC teams until recently didn’t play a P5 OOC and then Loaded up on cupcakes in and out of conference. Look at the last few years bowl record or OOC in season record for existing and incoming members vs other conferences and it’s clear the BIG 12 is one of the best OOC. In conference there hasn’t been a tougher league to win with nearly all teams competitive , a round robin schedule and a rematch CCG every year. And regarding expansion, the BIG 12 is adding four of the most successful athletic programs- all of whom have been better than Texas and some even with OU recently— 4of the most successful football programs the past decade. Once they have P5 schedules and resources the sky is the limit.
The big 12 will be the bottom of the power 5 food chain. The only teams that want to be in this conference are G5 teams. Everyone that has the chance to leave runs out the door.
 
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I live in Pac 12 country and haven't seen any legitimate source that has linked Usc to the Big 10. The only people claiming this is a bunch of BS artists hanging out on message boards. Post a link from a legitimate source and maybe I will see some credence in it. When it comes to common sense it isn't that hard to figure out the long term direction of the big 12. The big 12 is the new big east.
LOL!!
 
I laugh at you making bs claims with nothing to back it up. That's because it's made up. Btw how many teams have left the Pac in last 30 years? How many have left the Big 12? That tells you all you need to know.
Clone head is just another troll that likes stirring the pot.
 
I laugh at you making bs claims with nothing to back it up. That's because it's made up. Btw how many teams have left the Pac in last 30 years? How many have left the Big 12? That tells you all you need to know.
The P12 is geographically isolated and has been run into the ground by Larry Scott. They have serious issues to address including the complete failure of the PACN. See, Scott insisted on ownership and production of the PACN which has turned out to be a horrible decision for the members. Add the fact that fan interest levels, in college football in the PAC footprint, have been steadily declining, and you see the issues at hand. USC isn’t the only school that has done some exploring.

B12 lost membership for one reason only, and that reason is leaving for the SEC soon. I wish it would have happened 10 years ago, but would probably mean that WVU would be in the AAC. There is still a chance that the B12 will look much different in 2025, but not for the reasons that you think.
 
BYU just went 5-0 against the PAC and
The big 12 will be the bottom of the power 5 food chain. The only teams that want to be in this conference are G5 teams. Everyone that has the chance to leave runs out the door.
The BIG 12 isnt the bottom of anything and never has been and isnt going to be.
 
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I live in Pac 12 country and haven't seen any legitimate source that has linked Usc to the Big 10. The only people claiming this is a bunch of BS artists hanging out on message boards. Post a link from a legitimate source and maybe I will see some credence in it. When it comes to common sense it isn't that hard to figure out the long term direction of the big 12. The big 12 is the new big east.
ESPN, CBS and Colin Cowherd all spoke of Big 10 wanting USC. Mostly rumors at the time but nothing concrete. Lot of it had to do with the if question of Notre Dame coming with them. This was just before Texas and OU rumors of leaving Big 12. Looks like those two were true. So maybe those helped start the rumor to keep eyes off SEC and Texas with OU steal.
 
ESPN, CBS and Colin Cowherd all spoke of Big 10 wanting USC. Mostly rumors at the time but nothing concrete. Lot of it had to do with the if question of Notre Dame coming with them. This was just before Texas and OU rumors of leaving Big 12. Looks like those two were true. So maybe those helped start the rumor to keep eyes off SEC and Texas with OU steal.
Um

That was a runor a few years ago, or so.

Colin Cowhard is a USC "Shrill".
Coward has been slerping USC, for years.

Coward is now located in Los Angeles.
Cowhard is now slerping Lincoln Riley.

Very Doubtful USC to B10.

College Football is now
relevant for USC. No moves necessary.

B12 looks pretty dang good with Houston, UCF, Cincinnati & BYU addition.

Back to West Virginia relevancy, West Virginia needs to win more than 6 games in football & more than 16 games in basketball.

Nuff said
 
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Um

That was a runor a few years ago, or so.

Colin Cowhard is a USC "Shrill".
Coward has been slerping USC, for years.

Coward is now located in Los Angeles.
Cowhard is now slerping Lincoln Riley.

Very Doubtful USC to B10.

College Football is now
relevant for USC. No moves necessary.

B12 looks pretty dang good with Houston, UCF, Cincinnati & BYU addition.

Back to West Virginia relevancy, West Virginia needs to win more than 6 games in football & more than 16 games in basketball.

Nuff said
Agree on USC as the B10 has a tight relationship with PAC.

WVU is a solid B12 school and I am glad they joined. They will soon have some members that are closer geographically so there won’t be as much isolation. B12 is going to be salty and a fun conference in both football and basketball, regardless of what the agenda driven talking heads proclaim.
 
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Agree on USC as the B10 has a tight relationship with PAC.

WVU is a solid B12 school and I am glad they joined. They will soon have some members that are closer geographically so there won’t be as much isolation. B12 is going to be salty and a fun conference in both football and basketball, regardless of what the agenda driven talking heads proclaim.
Damn well Said
 
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