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personality...approach...or tradition that define them. what is wvu's personality?

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personality...approach...or tradition that define them. what is wvu's personality?
As with any organization, the constitution of the program stems from the individual personality of the authority over it. It is a given that a solid college football program has a University President, Athletic Director and Head Coach that are in lock-step with regards to the here and now but also the potential future. When one or more of these connections is broken the program loses it's way.

During the Nehlen years, WVU was a lunch pail sort of program that occasionally touched greatness but also but also tasted the bitterness of failure.

During the Rodriguez years, WVU was a challenger and champion and stood above it's competition with exciting teams and dreams of what may almost happen, but it too ended in the worst sort of pain, when that same coach turned not only on his institution but the fans and even the larger population of the state by calling us inbred, violent racists on his way to to avoid paying his bills.

Then, we suffered the worst of all possible effects, we had a overly tired and uncommitted Athletic Director in Ed Pastilong. Having always been cheap, he had become lazy in his duty and lost all sight on the future of WVU. He sold out to mob-rule that saw Bill Stewart made Head Coach when another had already been agreed too.

So, during the Stewart years, WVU took on his perception of the goofy looking old man with the ragged smile and a head seat on backwards. WVU payed down to lesser competition and sank into mediocrity.

But, Ed Pastilong passed on from the job and the new guy, likable as he is had all the staying power of a heavy fart in a brisk wind. Oliver Luck never lets grass grow under his feet and he does not have a good field of vision for his own future much less that of those who employ him. He made some quick calls that had the right zing in them but were just as insubstantial as he was an AD. We got our hands on Dana Holgorsen and the tragic saga of Stewart and he conflicting right from the start and the state's press picking sides - very unprofessional.

During the Holgorsen years, Dana had the team doing stupid things that made no sense during a game. The man was over his head at this level, hated recruiting and loved the bottle just a tad too much for a man with too few productive hours in his day. WVU, because extremely erratic to the point it was just another blip on game day and in the end win or lose did not matter to anyone, not even the coach.

But, when Luck left the program to chase something new and shiny because that is his calling in life, never to the substantial, Dana had the foundation yanked from under him. Some give Luck credit for the Big-12 but that was more Don Nehlen that Oliver Luck.

So, Dana was inflicted with the obvious need to move on. He was not getting the job done and he seemed to not care. WVU and West Virginia was not the fit for him and the program wobbled without identity of any sort.

So, in comes Lyons who speaks well, looks the part and is just as messed up as the rest, too filled with his own importance to see that he should be placing his wants second if they are placed at all to the program he had dedicated himself too. Valuing social acceptance more than quality sportsmanship, Lyons brought in a guy that on paper read extremely well, but as with all packages of this sort, the devil was in the details, Vic Koenig made Neal Brown what he was. That social acceptance was at stake and when the time came for hard decisions, we chose to go soft and go woke and worse, march a head coach down High Street to fall to his knees and lament that these damn hillbillies are just naturally racists but NOT ME.

So this has left WVU with the personality and identity of a bitter ex-girlfriend trying hard to be attractive but everyone knows is just another Karen. WVU has no strength, no quality sportsmanship, no faith in itself and no desire to be better. NO one tries and the coach has no idea how to motivate them because he is less a coach and more of a puppet to the diversity councils riot at WVU.

WVU has never been lower than it is today and with Gee approaching what looks 200 years of age, an AD that has a best friend in his mirror and a head coach who really has no clue how to be an adult man much less a college football coach, WVU is left leaderless, worthless, hopeless.
 

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As with any organization, the constitution of the program stems from the individual personality of the authority over it. It is a given that a solid college football program has a University President, Athletic Director and Head Coach that are in lock-step with regards to the here and now but also the potential future. When one or more of these connections is broken the program loses it's way.

During the Nehlen years, WVU was a lunch pail sort of program that occasionally touched greatness but also but also tasted the bitterness of failure.

During the Rodriguez years, WVU was a challenger and champion and stood above it's competition with exciting teams and dreams of what may almost happen, but it too ended in the worst sort of pain, when that same coach turned not only on his institution but the fans and even the larger population of the state by calling us inbred, violent racists on his way to to avoid paying his bills.

Then, we suffered the worst of all possible effects, we had a overly tired and uncommitted Athletic Director in Ed Pastilong. Having always been cheap, he had become lazy in his duty and lost all sight on the future of WVU. He sold out to mob-rule that saw Bill Stewart made Head Coach when another had already been agreed too.

So, during the Stewart years, WVU took on his perception of the goofy looking old man with the ragged smile and a head seat on backwards. WVU payed down to lesser competition and sank into mediocrity.

But, Ed Pastilong passed on from the job and the new guy, likable as he is had all the staying power of a heavy fart in a brisk wind. Oliver Luck never lets grass grow under his feet and he does not have a good field of vision for his own future much less that of those who employ him. He made some quick calls that had the right zing in them but were just as insubstantial as he was an AD. We got our hands on Dana Holgorsen and the tragic saga of Stewart and he conflicting right from the start and the state's press picking sides - very unprofessional.

During the Holgorsen years, Dana had the team doing stupid things that made no sense during a game. The man was over his head at this level, hated recruiting and loved the bottle just a tad too much for a man with too few productive hours in his day. WVU, because extremely erratic to the point it was just another blip on game day and in the end win or lose did not matter to anyone, not even the coach.

But, when Luck left the program to chase something new and shiny because that is his calling in life, never to the substantial, Dana had the foundation yanked from under him. Some give Luck credit for the Big-12 but that was more Don Nehlen that Oliver Luck.

So, Dana was inflicted with the obvious need to move on. He was not getting the job done and he seemed to not care. WVU and West Virginia was not the fit for him and the program wobbled without identity of any sort.

So, in comes Lyons who speaks well, looks the part and is just as messed up as the rest, too filled with his own importance to see that he should be placing his wants second if they are placed at all to the program he had dedicated himself too. Valuing social acceptance more than quality sportsmanship, Lyons brought in a guy that on paper read extremely well, but as with all packages of this sort, the devil was in the details, Vic Koenig made Neal Brown what he was. That social acceptance was at stake and when the time came for hard decisions, we chose to go soft and go woke and worse, march a head coach down High Street to fall to his knees and lament that these damn hillbillies are just naturally racists but NOT ME.

So this has left WVU with the personality and identity of a bitter ex-girlfriend trying hard to be attractive but everyone knows is just another Karen. WVU has no strength, no quality sportsmanship, no faith in itself and no desire to be better. NO one tries and the coach has no idea how to motivate them because he is less a coach and more of a puppet to the diversity councils riot at WVU.

WVU has never been lower than it is today and with Gee approaching what looks 200 years of age, an AD that has a best friend in his mirror and a head coach who really has no clue how to be an adult man much less a college football coach, WVU is left leaderless, worthless, hopeless.
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As with any organization, the constitution of the program stems from the individual personality of the authority over it. It is a given that a solid college football program has a University President, Athletic Director and Head Coach that are in lock-step with regards to the here and now but also the potential future. When one or more of these connections is broken the program loses it's way.

During the Nehlen years, WVU was a lunch pail sort of program that occasionally touched greatness but also but also tasted the bitterness of failure.

During the Rodriguez years, WVU was a challenger and champion and stood above it's competition with exciting teams and dreams of what may almost happen, but it too ended in the worst sort of pain, when that same coach turned not only on his institution but the fans and even the larger population of the state by calling us inbred, violent racists on his way to to avoid paying his bills.

Then, we suffered the worst of all possible effects, we had a overly tired and uncommitted Athletic Director in Ed Pastilong. Having always been cheap, he had become lazy in his duty and lost all sight on the future of WVU. He sold out to mob-rule that saw Bill Stewart made Head Coach when another had already been agreed too.

So, during the Stewart years, WVU took on his perception of the goofy looking old man with the ragged smile and a head seat on backwards. WVU payed down to lesser competition and sank into mediocrity.

But, Ed Pastilong passed on from the job and the new guy, likable as he is had all the staying power of a heavy fart in a brisk wind. Oliver Luck never lets grass grow under his feet and he does not have a good field of vision for his own future much less that of those who employ him. He made some quick calls that had the right zing in them but were just as insubstantial as he was an AD. We got our hands on Dana Holgorsen and the tragic saga of Stewart and he conflicting right from the start and the state's press picking sides - very unprofessional.

During the Holgorsen years, Dana had the team doing stupid things that made no sense during a game. The man was over his head at this level, hated recruiting and loved the bottle just a tad too much for a man with too few productive hours in his day. WVU, because extremely erratic to the point it was just another blip on game day and in the end win or lose did not matter to anyone, not even the coach.

But, when Luck left the program to chase something new and shiny because that is his calling in life, never to the substantial, Dana had the foundation yanked from under him. Some give Luck credit for the Big-12 but that was more Don Nehlen that Oliver Luck.

So, Dana was inflicted with the obvious need to move on. He was not getting the job done and he seemed to not care. WVU and West Virginia was not the fit for him and the program wobbled without identity of any sort.

So, in comes Lyons who speaks well, looks the part and is just as messed up as the rest, too filled with his own importance to see that he should be placing his wants second if they are placed at all to the program he had dedicated himself too. Valuing social acceptance more than quality sportsmanship, Lyons brought in a guy that on paper read extremely well, but as with all packages of this sort, the devil was in the details, Vic Koenig made Neal Brown what he was. That social acceptance was at stake and when the time came for hard decisions, we chose to go soft and go woke and worse, march a head coach down High Street to fall to his knees and lament that these damn hillbillies are just naturally racists but NOT ME.

So this has left WVU with the personality and identity of a bitter ex-girlfriend trying hard to be attractive but everyone knows is just another Karen. WVU has no strength, no quality sportsmanship, no faith in itself and no desire to be better. NO one tries and the coach has no idea how to motivate them because he is less a coach and more of a puppet to the diversity councils riot at WVU.

WVU has never been lower than it is today and with Gee approaching what looks 200 years of age, an AD that has a best friend in his mirror and a head coach who really has no clue how to be an adult man much less a college football coach, WVU is left leaderless, worthless, hopeless.
what does this forumpedia posting have to do with my question? lol
 

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