After a few days to think

[VaultHunter]

I have decided I jumped the gun on thinking Dana might not be the man for the job.

I have been watching college football since 84 ( my first game at WVU I remember) and I know enough to say that WVU is just getting beat by better programs.

The only game I hold against Dana if any is the Oklahoma State game and even then its hard to blame him for that. The turnover on our own goaline was the difference in that game.

Other than that WVU has lost two games to two top 5 teams another game to Oklahoma who is always a top ten team and gave away a game against a Oklahoma State team who will finish at least in the top 15.

I will wait until the season is over before allowing myself to get into jumping off of a bridge mode again because that is the only fair thing to do.

I will not be surprised if WVU finished 8-4 and goes to a good bowl. If so then its hard to fire Dana and see the season as a failure.

Right now everybody needs to just accept the fact WVU has lost 3 games to teams better than WVU and had a great chance to upset a very good Oklahoma State team but came up short.

That is just the reality of the situation and nobody can dispute that. If WVU blows games against teams we should beat like Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas State ect then we have another thing to talk about.

Until then people including myself need to realize this is how it will be for WVU for a while until we build a program capable of winning the Big12 every year. People better learn patience because it might be a while

 

[Orlaco]

Some people might give you crap for backtracking... ...but sports (even for fans) is an emotional investment. That doesn't mean I second your endorsement.

I am still having issues with how Dana handled the end of the first half... ....it was more of the same crap...

.....horrible decisions.

 

[Krighton]

You need to think harder

 

[torontoeers]

And here I was thinking you'd turned a corner like me...see you on the other side VH...I'm quite comfortable (yet disturbed) at the fact he needs to go....

 

[ThePunish-EER]

I have decided I jumped the gun on thinking Dana might not be the man for the job.

I have been watching college football since 84 ( my first game at WVU I remember) and I know enough to say that WVU is just getting beat by better programs.

The only game I hold against Dana if any is the Oklahoma State game and even then its hard to blame him for that. The turnover on our own goaline was the difference in that game.

Other than that WVU has lost two games to two top 5 teams another game to Oklahoma who is always a top ten team and gave away a game against a Oklahoma State team who will finish at least in the top 15.

I will wait until the season is over before allowing myself to get into jumping off of a bridge mode again because that is the only fair thing to do.

I will not be surprised if WVU finished 8-4 and goes to a good bowl. If so then its hard to fire Dana and see the season as a failure.

Right now everybody needs to just accept the fact WVU has lost 3 games to teams better than WVU and had a great chance to upset a very good Oklahoma State team but came up short.

That is just the reality of the situation and nobody can dispute that. If WVU blows games against teams we should beat like Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas State ect then we have another thing to talk about.

Until then people including myself need to realize this is how it will be for WVU for a while until we build a program capable of winning the Big12 every year. People better learn patience because it might be a while

glad to see someone with a brain. The combined record for the teams who gave us the 4 losses is 28-1. Doubtful anyone but a couple teams in the country would be better than 3-4 right now with our schedule.

 

[Charleston Mountie]

glad to see someone with a brain. The combined record for the teams who gave us the 4 losses is 28-1. Doubtful anyone but a couple teams in the country would be better than 3-4 right now with our schedule.

The numbers that matter are not 28-1, it is 0-4. I do not think any of these conversations would be happening if we went 2-2. If we had at least gone 1-3, the screaming would have been no more than a whine. It is the 0-4 that matters, not the 28-1. Also, none of those 28 wins came against a single ranked team ranked any where.

 

[ThePunish-EER]

The numbers that matter are not 28-1, it is 0-4. I do not think any of these conversations would be happening if we went 2-2. If we had at least gone 1-3, the screaming would have been no more than a whine. It is the 0-4 that matters, not the 28-1. Also, none of those 28 wins came against a single ranked team ranked any where.

once again, 28-1. Everyone is losing to them.

 

[Charleston Mountie]

once again, 28-1. Everyone is losing to them.

They haven't played any one good yet, so three is nothing but perception that they are any good in spite of their combined record. The next few weeks will tell, but right now, the only number that matters to WVU is 0-4. Most would have died to be 3-1 and would have been happy with 2-2. There would be have been some grumbling at 1-3 but no one likes 0-4 so 28-1 is not in this topic.

 

[Low Mountains Drifter]

There will be at least 6 more losses. The only question is the distribution.

The other question is what is the best win any of them have.

 

[ThePunish-EER]

They haven't played any one good yet, so three is nothing but perception that they are any good in spite of their combined record. The next few weeks will tell, but right now, the only number that matters to WVU is 0-4. Most would have died to be 3-1 and would have been happy with 2-2. There would be have been some grumbling at 1-3 but no one likes 0-4 so 28-1 is not in this topic.

once again, 28-1. 3 of them are top 10. Get a clue

 

[Pushingtin]

ok...let me shut you 28-1 nit wits up once and for all.........of those 29 games only Ok had played Tenn, the rest of the wins are littered with SMU, Rice, Lamar, SF Austin, Central Mich, Central Ark, Kansas, Iowa St and sadly us.....yes we are the big 12 welcome mat thanks to Dana. One decent team out of 29......that's why 28-1 means nothing, zilch........only record that matters is 0 for 4 in Oct for WVU. or are you guys still counting moral victories?????

 

[ThePunish-EER]

ok...let me shut you 28-1 nit wits up once and for all.........of those 29 games only Ok had played Tenn, the rest of the wins are littered with SMU, Rice, Lamar, SF Austin, Central Mich, Central Ark, Kansas, Iowa St and sadly us.....yes we are the big 12 welcome mat thanks to Dana. One decent team out of 29......that's why 28-1 means nothing, zilch........only record that matters is 0 for 4 in Oct for WVU. or are you guys still counting moral victories?????

oh so the fact Baylor and Tcu this year are basically the same teams as last year don't mean anything? You realize they both finished about 11-1. That should shut your nitwit self up. All 4 are excellent teams. 3 are top 10. As I said, get a clue. Stop acting like a dipshit and learn football.

 

[Pushingtin]

oh so the fact Baylor and Tcu this year are basically the same teams as last year don't mean anything? You realize they both finished about 11-1. That should shut your nitwit self up. All 4 are excellent teams. 3 are top 10. As I said, get a clue. Stop acting like a dipshit and learn football.

the only person that needs to learn is are the ignorant that look at a record of 28-1 without looking at who has been played.....I say again....Lamar, cent Ark, cent Mich, Kansas, Iowa St, SF Austin and WVU.................29 games against a bunch of patsies......Hell, even we were UNDEFEATED when we were playing a bunch of weak teams............we were ranked at one point too, so that should tell you about how flawed the ranking system is!!!!!!!

 

[dangerousdaneerfan]

glad to see someone with a brain. The combined record for the teams who gave us the 4 losses is 28-1. Doubtful anyone but a couple teams in the country would be better than 3-4 right now with our schedule.

That sounds like the Marshall wins we make fun of for "moral victories."

 

[ThePunish-EER]

the only person that needs to learn is are the ignorant that look at a record of 28-1 without looking at who has been played.....I say again....Lamar, cent Ark, cent Mich, Kansas, Iowa St, SF Austin and WVU.................29 games against a bunch of patsies......Hell, even we were UNDEFEATED when we were playing a bunch of weak teams............we were ranked at one point too, so that should tell you about how flawed the ranking system is!!!!!!!

only an ignorant person would treat the big 12 like the sunbelt or cusa schedule. Of course they are legit. Good lord. Then again, none of you can comprehend the big 12 is light years stronger than the big east was.

 

[Pushingtin]

0-4 against the only decent teams in the Big12...ok...Texas Tech is a pretty good team at home. Ok...fine, I will see it your way.......we are 7-0 with the moral victories!!!!!

 

[listentomenowandheermelateer!]

I'm torn, but there were lots of points left on the field in the first half of the TCU game. The offensive and defensive
drops were pivotal. Agree with OP, see how the season plays out.

 

[wbgvwbgv]

glad to see someone with a brain. The combined record for the teams who gave us the 4 losses is 28-1. Doubtful anyone but a couple teams in the country would be better than 3-4 right now with our schedule.

WVU's conference opponents are now 30-1 and against better competition than most power conference teams. Two Big 12 teams in the Top 10 and two more knocking on the door. I think it is very safe to say that there are few teams in America that would have a better record than WVU's 3-4 with our schedule. The trolls and low information fans will always complain regardless and will always be ignored.

 

[Pushingtin]

WVU's conference opponents are now 30-1 and against better competition than most power conference teams. Two Big 12 teams in the Top 10 and two more knocking on the door. I think it is very safe to say that there are few teams in America that would have a better record than WVU's 3-4 with our schedule. The trolls and low information fans will always complain regardless and will always be ignored.

nice....a troll and low info fan calling others trolls and low info........seen it all now!!!

 

[pressvirginia]

nothing wrong with taking a few days to consider.

something wrong after several years of same results.

 

[WarezEER]

I have decided I jumped the gun on thinking Dana might not be the man for the job.

I have been watching college football since 84 ( my first game at WVU I remember) and I know enough to say that WVU is just getting beat by better programs.

The only game I hold against Dana if any is the Oklahoma State game and even then its hard to blame him for that. The turnover on our own goaline was the difference in that game.

Other than that WVU has lost two games to two top 5 teams another game to Oklahoma who is always a top ten team and gave away a game against a Oklahoma State team who will finish at least in the top 15.

I will wait until the season is over before allowing myself to get into jumping off of a bridge mode again because that is the only fair thing to do.

I will not be surprised if WVU finished 8-4 and goes to a good bowl. If so then its hard to fire Dana and see the season as a failure.

Right now everybody needs to just accept the fact WVU has lost 3 games to teams better than WVU and had a great chance to upset a very good Oklahoma State team but came up short.

That is just the reality of the situation and nobody can dispute that. If WVU blows games against teams we should beat like Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas State ect then we have another thing to talk about.

Until then people including myself need to realize this is how it will be for WVU for a while until we build a program capable of winning the Big12 every year. People better learn patience because it might be a while

It scares me that it takes you more than a single day to think. My girl friend has the same problem. I left her for a young thing that can think on the run. Yes................I did. Now about winning the Big 12 every year. You better think about that some more. Warez

 

[TruWVblu]

I have decided I jumped the gun on thinking Dana might not be the man for the job.

I have been watching college football since 84 ( my first game at WVU I remember) and I know enough to say that WVU is just getting beat by better programs.

The only game I hold against Dana if any is the Oklahoma State game and even then its hard to blame him for that. The turnover on our own goaline was the difference in that game.

Other than that WVU has lost two games to two top 5 teams another game to Oklahoma who is always a top ten team and gave away a game against a Oklahoma State team who will finish at least in the top 15.

I will wait until the season is over before allowing myself to get into jumping off of a bridge mode again because that is the only fair thing to do.

I will not be surprised if WVU finished 8-4 and goes to a good bowl. If so then its hard to fire Dana and see the season as a failure.

Right now everybody needs to just accept the fact WVU has lost 3 games to teams better than WVU and had a great chance to upset a very good Oklahoma State team but came up short.

That is just the reality of the situation and nobody can dispute that. If WVU blows games against teams we should beat like Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas State ect then we have another thing to talk about.

Until then people including myself need to realize this is how it will be for WVU for a while until we build a program capable of winning the Big12 every year. People better learn patience because it might be a while

So tell me, how long do we have to accept that there are at least 4 teams better than us in our own conference, that we have little to no chance of beating? How long do we have to understand that just a chance of beating a couple of the bottom teams in the conference and finishing in the middle of the Big 12 is the best we can do? I'm starting to know what it is like to be Vanderbuilt and Kentucky.

 

[WiiWii]

So tell me, how long do we have to accept that there are at least 4 teams better than us in our own conference, that we have little to no chance of beating? How long do we have to understand that just a chance of beating a couple of the bottom teams in the conference and finishing in the middle of the Big 12 is the best we can do? I'm starting to know what it is like to be Vanderbuilt and Kentucky.

I have already explained to the tempermental owner of this website, that when we were in the Big East, we recruited better than the other teams most of the years. As a member of the Big 12, we are recruiting average talent for this conference. We, therefore, end up as a rather average team in this conference. We are not the "Vanderbuilt & Kentucky", but we might well be the South Carolina -- make some noise here or there, but for the most part, middle of the pack.

PunishEER and the other posters with minds are right. We got beat by 3 much better teams and lost a close game to one comparable team. Get used to it.

PS. What we should be worried about is can Dana hold the team together to beat Texas Tech next week. THAT game will make or break the season. Win on Saturday and we likely go 8-4. Lose and it is going to get really, really ugly.

 

[ColoradoMountaineer]

I have already explained to the tempermental owner of this website, that when we were in the Big East, we recruited better than the other teams most of the years. As a member of the Big 12, we are recruiting average talent for this conference. We, therefore, end up as a rather average team in this conference. We are not the "Vanderbuilt & Kentucky", but we might well be the South Carolina -- make some noise here or there, but for the most part, middle of the pack.

PunishEER and the other posters with minds are right. We got beat by 3 much better teams and lost a close game to one comparable team. Get used to it.

PS. What we should be worried about is can Dana hold the team together to beat Texas Tech next week. THAT game will make or break the season. Win on Saturday and we likely go 8-4. Lose and it is going to get really, really ugly.

If you look at rivals recruiting class rankings you will see that TCU and Baylor have recruited very similar to WVU. WVU has held it own in the recruiting front against these teams. The only 2 teams that have been consistently better are Oklahoma and Texas. If Baylor is so superior on the recruiting front then why are they only 2-2 against wvu in conference play. Why did they get smoked by central Florida in the fiesta bowl and they where exposed by Michigan state last season?. Oklahoma's win over Alabama is the only win of significance that the conference has had since we joined. This conference consistently lays an egg in the post season

 

[ThePunish-EER]

So tell me, how long do we have to accept that there are at least 4 teams better than us in our own conference, that we have little to no chance of beating? How long do we have to understand that just a chance of beating a couple of the bottom teams in the conference and finishing in the middle of the Big 12 is the best we can do? I'm starting to know what it is like to be Vanderbuilt and Kentucky.

about as long as the rest of the country to accept those 4 teams are better than 16 other teams in the top 20 and several in the top 10. If you weren't so clueless, you might understand that. The big 12 has 4 teams in the top 10.

 

[ColoradoMountaineer]

about as long as the rest of the country to accept those 4 teams are better than 16 other teams in the top 20 and several in the top 10. If you weren't so clueless, you might understand that. The big 12 has 4 teams in the top 10.

None of those teams outside of Oklahoma has played anyone. You will have to see how good they really are once they play some better competition. Just look where Oregon and Auburn started the season where are they ranked now? Why is it unreasonable to expect better results out of wvu. look at what baylor and tcu have accomplished. Baylor's highest rated recruiting class in the last 5 years is 35th. Tcu highest rated class has been 26th. None of these are anywhere in the same league as the Alabama and Ohio states of the world

 

[WVUDisciples]

It's not just 0-4. We could handle 0-4. Its the WAY we lost to them. It's giving up 179 points with what we were told would be an excellent defense. It's 48-7 in the first quarter during those four losses. Even in our worst Dana years we usually hung with the better teams for a half. And frankly, Baylor, OU, and TCU took the foot off the pedal or it would have been worse.

The fact is we are getting beaten worse in the Big 12 in 2015 than we were getting beaten in 2012. We are going in the wrong direction and we are graduating 10 starters. Skyler is a great competitor but he is not going to lead us to 9 wins with a retooled defense in 2016. 2017 we have to break in a rookie QB .... It will never end with a new excuse every year.

We need to cut our losses, new coach new qb new defense - go 6-6 next year and hopefully compete with top teams in 2017. It's the best we can hope for.

PS - I still say if Dana can rally this team to 8-4, I'll change my opinion about his ability to lead.

 

[TruWVblu]

about as long as the rest of the country to accept those 4 teams are better than 16 other teams in the top 20 and several in the top 10. If you weren't so clueless, you might understand that. The big 12 has 4 teams in the top 10.

If it were said by anyone else, I may be offended by your "clueless" reference, but considering it was you, it means nothing. Truth is, you hated Bill Stewart and anyone who supported the man. You have used this venue to further that agenda. It does not matter what I say, You take every opportunity you can to try to degrade me personally. I have never attacked you personally. This is more of a reflection on you than me.

 

[TruWVblu]

I have already explained to the tempermental owner of this website, that when we were in the Big East, we recruited better than the other teams most of the years. As a member of the Big 12, we are recruiting average talent for this conference. We, therefore, end up as a rather average team in this conference. We are not the "Vanderbuilt & Kentucky", but we might well be the South Carolina -- make some noise here or there, but for the most part, middle of the pack.

PunishEER and the other posters with minds are right. We got beat by 3 much better teams and lost a close game to one comparable team. Get used to it.

PS. What we should be worried about is can Dana hold the team together to beat Texas Tech next week. THAT game will make or break the season. Win on Saturday and we likely go 8-4. Lose and it is going to get really, really ugly.

We have lost by over 20 points more under Holgorsen than we have in the previous 15 years combined and you are telling me I have to get used to that? Our team has been unprepared and undisciplined in many of the games he has coached. That is more reflective of Vanderbuilt and Kentucky than SC, but even if I were to buy your SC comparison, their coach did the right thing and stepped down. This team would not be leading the AAC.

 

[ThePunish-EER]

We have lost by over 20 points more under Holgorsen than we have in the previous 15 years combined and you are telling me I have to get used to that? Our team has been unprepared and undisciplined in many of the games he has coached. That is more reflective of Vanderbuilt and Kentucky than SC, but even if I were to buy your SC comparison, their coach did the right thing and stepped down. This team would not be leading the AAC.

stop acting like a goof ball. How do you know Wvu would not be leading the AAC? No proof. We just lost to 4 top 10 teams with a combined record of 28-1 going into the weekend. I think it's now 30-1 or 32-1. Clueless. And yes South Carolina is a good comparison. Just as Arkansas or Iowa would be good comparisons. This league (big 12) is the 2nd best conference in America behind the sec. They are close leagues. This is not the big least anymore. Your buddy stew would be man handled and slapped around like a rag doll in this league.

 

[TruWVblu]

stop acting like a goof ball. How do you know Wvu would not be leading the AAC? No proof. We just lost to 4 top 10 teams with a combined record of 28-1 going into the weekend. I think it's now 30-1 or 32-1. Clueless. And yes South Carolina is a good comparison. Just as Arkansas or Iowa would be good comparisons. This league (big 12) is the 2nd best conference in America behind the sec. They are close leagues. This is not the big least anymore. Your buddy stew would be man handled and slapped around like a rag doll in this league.

It is funny how you can tell me I don't know how we would be doing in the AAC and then turn around and tell how Stewart would get slapped around in the Big 12. Your disdain for Stewart makes you say really stupid things.

 

[TruWVblu]

I have already explained to the tempermental owner of this website, that when we were in the Big East, we recruited better than the other teams most of the years. As a member of the Big 12, we are recruiting average talent for this conference. We, therefore, end up as a rather average team in this conference. We are not the "Vanderbuilt & Kentucky", but we might well be the South Carolina -- make some noise here or there, but for the most part, middle of the pack.

PunishEER and the other posters with minds are right. We got beat by 3 much better teams and lost a close game to one comparable team. Get used to it.

PS. What we should be worried about is can Dana hold the team together to beat Texas Tech next week. THAT game will make or break the season. Win on Saturday and we likely go 8-4. Lose and it is going to get really, really ugly.

Since you are comparing us to South Carolina, Spurriear was the head coach there for 10 seasons. During that time his team lost by more than 20 points 8 times, with 4 of those loses being by over 30 points. Holgorsen, in just half the time has lost 12 games by 20 or more points with 6 of those being by over 30 points. It's not just that we are losing, it's how we are losing. By the way, two of those 20+ point loses were to Syracuse.

 

[Pushingtin]

about as long as the rest of the country to accept those 4 teams are better than 16 other teams in the top 20 and several in the top 10. If you weren't so clueless, you might understand that. The big 12 has 4 teams in the top 10.

talk about clueless......rankings are deceptive.......do you really think Ok State or Ok is better than Georgia, Mich, Texas A M or even a Temple at this point. Baylor is only team that deserves to be ranked as high as they are...........Hell, this is the 2nd or 3rd year in a row now that Marshall would kick our arse, good thing we got them off the schedule.
This was a year that was ripe for any good team in the big 12 to sneak into a title....Oklahoma, Ok St and TCU are very beatable teams, Baylor is a tough draw for anyone but who knows now with a new QB(anyone that listens to Dana knows that there just isn't enough snaps to train a back up) if they will keep rolling.

 

[Boomboom521]

It scares me that it takes you more than a single day to think. My girl friend has the same problem. I left her for a young thing that can think on the run. Yes................I did. Now about winning the Big 12 every year. You better think about that some more. Warez

That is one of the lowest posts I've ever seen. Did you just brag about leaving your wife? (Hope you don't have kids). Divorce is fine, but it shouldn't be bragged out, and to brag that you left her for someone younger that thinks differently? That's pretty scum bag stuff buddy. That crap has been making this fan base and state look bad for decades. Ignorant, big mouthed, sexist, and just freaking low.

 

[WiiWii]

talk about clueless......rankings are deceptive.......do you really think Ok State or Ok is better than Georgia, Mich, Texas A M or even a Temple at this point. Baylor is only team that deserves to be ranked as high as they are...........Hell, this is the 2nd or 3rd year in a row now that Marshall would kick our arse, good thing we got them off the schedule.
This was a year that was ripe for any good team in the big 12 to sneak into a title....Oklahoma, Ok St and TCU are very beatable teams, Baylor is a tough draw for anyone but who knows now with a new QB(anyone that listens to Dana knows that there just isn't enough snaps to train a back up) if they will keep rolling.

Good lord, you just proved your lack of intelligence. Ask Ohio how tough your buddies down south are. Credibility = zero

 

[WiiWii]

That is one of the lowest posts I've ever seen. Did you just brag about leaving your wife? (Hope you don't have kids). Divorce is fine, but it shouldn't be bragged out, and to brag that you left her for someone younger that thinks differently? That's pretty scum bag stuff buddy. That crap has been making this fan base and state look bad for decades. Ignorant, big mouthed, sexist, and just freaking low.

...look if you haven' figured out the fake personalities portrayed on this site, it is best to just keep your mouth shut and avoid embarassing yourself...

 

[BornAgainEer]

Good post VH. Nice to see someone with perspective pointing out the obvious to these crybaby fans. Wonder how many of them will be sad when WVU starts chalking up some wins in November.

 

[TarHeelEer]

Other than that WVU has lost two games to two top 5 teams another game to Oklahoma who is always a top ten team and gave away a game against a Oklahoma State team who will finish at least in the top 15.

All unacceptable. The idea is to be the team in the top 5, not to lose to them. Four times in a row. Probably 5.

 

[jpf578]

The numbers that matter are not 28-1, it is 0-4. I do not think any of these conversations would be happening if we went 2-2. If we had at least gone 1-3, the screaming would have been no more than a whine. It is the 0-4 that matters, not the 28-1. Also, none of those 28 wins came against a single ranked team ranked any where.

And we are not ranked either. We were when Okie Lite beat us so your argument does not hold water.

 

[jpf578]

It scares me that it takes you more than a single day to think. My girl friend has the same problem. I left her for a young thing that can think on the run. Yes................I did. Now about winning the Big 12 every year. You better think about that some more. Warez

Marshall and sPitt need fans.