A fair assessment of Neal Brown

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IMO, Neal Brown is a product of bad timing. Every successful HC has their junkyarddog DC coach. The guy that gives the program balls and strikes fear into his players that ultimately creates respect and hard work. Frank Beamer had Bud Foster. Don Nehlen had Bill Krelovich (sp?), Steve Dunlap, and Doc Holliday. Rich Rod had Rick Trickett and Mike Barwis. Neal Brown had Vic Koenning and he was legit. Our pussy WVU liberal administration decided to side with the trouble maker player from Charleston and fired Koenning instead. This was strike 1. Then the following season, the landmark SCOTUS decision to allow the NIL and immediate transfer portal. Strike 2 and 3. I don’t care who you are, your entire idea of how to build and maintain a program immediately changed overnight. Unless you’re a blueblood, everything you knew about recruiting has now changed. And now, you’re recruiting your current players all 4 years so they don’t leave. None of it has been fair. And for all the insults and names of Kneel Clown and Shame Lyings, shame on you guys. These are good guys. Maybe a change is necessary, I agree. But let’s give them some respect.
 
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NIL without a doubt drastically changed things. Someone that may be a good coach without NIL may not be one with it and vice-versa.
 

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WVU posters make unecessary excuses. Look At KU. Worst facilities. Poor football rep. No recruits around close by. Yet hired new coach and two seasons in he has the last place BIG 12 team winning- already beat UT and now WVU ( and nearly took out WVU last year).

It can be done you just have to let go of the excuses. Watch Duke give KU a better game this week- may even beat them in Kansas. And all WVU fans get are more excuses.
 
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Every team has to deal with the new NIL deal, and dealt with covid and all the other things. No exemptions for any of that. Not a single excuse.

Shane Lyons ushered in the woke culture into this program, and it started with choosing to side with a snot nosed WV high school football player over a proven coach who has coached kids of color for a couple decades and never had an issue being "racist" until the woke movement took hold. A racist div 1 football coach really doesnt exist in todays world.

But what does exist is bad coaching. Neal has had plenty of talent to work with here and he has shown no improvement during his time here. If anything we just get worse and more inconsistent.
 

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WVU posters make unecessary excuses. Look At KU. Worst facilities. Poor football rep. No recruits around close by. Yet hired new coach and two seasons in he has the last place BIG 12 team winning- already beat UT and now WVU ( and nearly took out WVU last year).

It can be done you just have to let go of the excuses. Watch Duke give KU a better game this week- may even beat them in Kansas. And all WVU fans get are more excuses.
Kansas Athletics announced a $350 million plan to renovate several of the University's athletic facilities for its football...that was in 2017.

Kansas rebuilt with 24 transfer players from teams in P5.
 

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Racists worrying about a racist coach being fired has nothing to do with the problems WVU is now experiencing in football. The defense didn’t lose a step from that overrated G5 coach and didn’t perform better than Gibsons D s did When he was here- they could only win 5 games— one being an fcs, the other being a then bad KU and a couple other down B12 programs.

WVU has a coach that was not prepared to coach victories at the top level of college football. Up until this year his offenses were atrocious and usually scored 14 pts- leading to multiple losses. Worst rushing game, bad O line play, most drops in all of college football- the list of poor coaching and decision making is large.

The AD forced the hire of Harrell, he brought in Daniel’s and the offense has improved but the overall coaching has not- multiple mistakes, drops, now special teams mistakes, interceptions at critical times and a fearful coach who didn’t trust his team to get one yard when they were dominating and winning with just minutes left and continues to coach his team not to lose rather than to win- just as he did at his previous stop. That’s the problem.
 
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The problem is radical right trying to destroy everything and injecting their radical lunatic nazi propoganda and agenda on everyone else.
 

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The problem is radical right trying to destroy everything and injecting their radical lunatic nazi propoganda and agenda on everyone else.
Lol Show us examples where the “radical right” represents Nazism. Show us how supporting the constitution of the US is “radical”. Show us why Making America Great Again is bad? Better yet, leave
 

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Lol Show us examples where the “radical right” represents Nazism. Show us how supporting the constitution of the US is “radical”. Show us why Making America Great Again is bad? Better yet, leave
There is no support of the constitution. You lunatics tried to overthrow the government of the United States on January 6th, you constantly ignore the law and try to deny constitutional voting rights and most recently overturned longstanding law of Roe v Wade which will be disastrous for America. Trump is your Hitler- worshipped as a god man you do whatever he says no matter how wrong or insane and have tried to insert him as an autocrat despite the people of the United States throwing him out. He does nothing but line his own pockets and punish anyone who dares stand up to him with gestappo tactics and you cheer him on at every step. “Make America Great Again” is just a slogan. A racist slogan which stands for white nationalism in reality, not American democracy. Not making America “great” again which it already was, but creating an autocratic system where only one group matters or has any ability to do anything. It means eliminating everyone’s rights except for a minority of people and giving all the wealth and power to the same. In action denying Obama his right to select a Supreme Court justice, then reversing course on “ an election year” when it suited the anti democratic agenda. Giving corporations and guns rights while eliminating peoples rights. Gerrymadering everything so the will of the people can’t elect chosen officials, instead the radical right remains in permanent do nothing power.

The only thing done which ruined the economy ( which as usual they try to blame on the democrats from day one) was to give trillionares and billionaires an exemption on paying taxes which damn near put the US in a depression and kill hundreds of thousands of Americans by pretending COVID didn’t exist and was created just to hurt God man trump.

Attacking and trying to overturn the election with lie after lie, fake electors trying to force there way into the legal election, and physically attacking the seat of government to try to stop the transfer of power is what America Under Maga has descended to,

They have done no good, not one thing. Only evil as they try to force their twisted religiowith on everyone else and remove constitutional rights from everyone but themselves.
 
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The problem is radical right trying to destroy everything and injecting their radical lunatic nazi propoganda and agenda on everyone else.
Can you give a example of a right wing radical lunatic nazi propaganda?...I mean you can't even spell the ****ing word correctly.

I know you can't....these are just buzz words you like to use....
 

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Every team has to deal with the new NIL deal, and dealt with covid and all the other things. No exemptions for any of that. Not a single excuse.

Shane Lyons ushered in the woke culture into this program, and it started with choosing to side with a snot nosed WV high school football player over a proven coach who has coached kids of color for a couple decades and never had an issue being "racist" until the woke movement took hold. A racist div 1 football coach really doesnt exist in todays world.

But what does exist is bad coaching. Neal has had plenty of talent to work with here and he has shown no improvement during his time here. If anything we just get worse and more inconsistent.
Double you summed it up in these nine words - "he has shown no improvement during his time here." it's not realistic to expect to go undefeated BUT it sure as hell is reasonable to expect improvement in the program going into the fourth year - it has not happened. Thanks, Shane
 
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There is no support of the constitution. You lunatics tried to overthrow the government of the United States on January 6th, you constantly ignore the law and try to deny constitutional voting rights and most recently overturned longstanding law of Roe v Wade which will be disastrous for America. Trump is your Hitler- worshipped as a god man you do whatever he says no matter how wrong or insane and have tried to insert him as an autocrat despite the people of the United States throwing him out. He does nothing but line his own pockets and punish anyone who dares stand up to him with gestappo tactics and you cheer him on at every step. “Make America Great Again” is just a slogan. A racist slogan which stands for white nationalism in reality, not American democracy. Not making America “great” again which it already was, but creating an autocratic system where only one group matters or has any ability to do anything. It means eliminating everyone’s rights except for a minority of people and giving all the wealth and power to the same. In action denying Obama his right to select a Supreme Court justice, then reversing course on “ an election year” when it suited the anti democratic agenda. Giving corporations and guns rights while eliminating peoples rights. Gerrymadering everything so the will of the people can’t elect chosen officials, instead the radical right remains in permanent do nothing power.

The only thing done which ruined the economy ( which as usual they try to blame on the democrats from day one) was to give trillionares and billionaires an exemption on paying taxes which damn near put the US in a depression and kill hundreds of thousands of Americans by pretending COVID didn’t exist and was created just to hurt God man trump.

Attacking and trying to overturn the election with lie after lie, fake electors trying to force there way into the legal election, and physically attacking the seat of government to try to stop the transfer of power is what America Under Maga has descended to,

They have done no good, not one thing. Only evil as they try to force their twisted religiowith on everyone else and remove constitutional rights from everyone but themselves.
“We” tried to overthrow the government all coming solely from the same side that had hard evidence of Russian collusion for 2-1/2 years. Pardon me if I doubt what you say.
Deny voting rights for dead people and those who get to vote several times in certain Democrat states and counties is the right thing to do.
Putting down Roe v Wade was a court ruling, not a federal law being removed. It puts it back to where it belongs: In each state so the people can actually vote on making it law. Since it is so popular and such a disastrous thing for America, then every state will vote it in. What is your deal, murdering to date millions of people for no good reason got you upset? Murder is murder no matter what you or your ilk say.
 
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IMO, Neal Brown is a product of bad timing. Every successful HC has their junkyarddog DC coach. The guy that gives the program balls and strikes fear into his players that ultimately creates respect and hard work. Frank Beamer had Bud Foster. Don Nehlen had Bill Krelovich (sp?), Steve Dunlap, and Doc Holliday. Rich Rod had Rick Trickett and Mike Barwis. Neal Brown had Vic Koenning and he was legit. Our pussy WVU liberal administration decided to side with the trouble maker player from Charleston and fired Koenning instead. This was strike 1. Then the following season, the landmark SCOTUS decision to allow the NIL and immediate transfer portal. Strike 2 and 3. I don’t care who you are, your entire idea of how to build and maintain a program immediately changed overnight. Unless you’re a blueblood, everything you knew about recruiting has now changed. And now, you’re recruiting your current players all 4 years so they don’t leave. None of it has been fair. And for all the insults and names of Kneel Clown and Shame Lyings, shame on you guys. These are good guys. Maybe a change is necessary, I agree. But let’s give them some respect.
Bad timing, dropped passes and going all in on a QB that wasn’t a Div 1 QB. If we catch the ball, Doege doesn’t go down as one of the worst all time. If we get JT, with 3 great years of defense wasted on Doege, we win Big12. Timing for Neal with NIL, COVID and transfer portal gets him next year. 5 and out is the new 3 and out. I think we win 5 more. I think we beat BU, TCU, TTech, Iowa St and Oklahoma.
 

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Brown has 0 accomplishments at WVU. Except for negatives.

Worst rushing game in Fbs year one. Worst team for dropped passes in any division of NCAA year two And drops have continued to be a major problem with different personnel. Tied for consecutive losses historically at WVU year one. Huge number of transfers. Worst 3 game stretch since 1979 failing to win 3 games consecutively. 0 days ranked In any poll 4 years in. Same in game coaching mistakes year after year. Under .500 4 years in.

Coaches like Leopold have stepped into actually destitute situations like at KU and won immediately without slogans, without excuses, without the mantra of “ their recruits“ as the fanboys love to claim.

What he did at a G 5 program where it was pretty easy to win ( sunbelt before the sunbelt was really getting noticed) hasnt translated to WVU.

He has made a mockery of WVU which has become the new KU under his watch.

He hasn’t earned and doesn’t deserve anything.
 
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Well he’s undefeated against Virginia Tech. He also has a bowl win. Granted those were Chipshot accomplishments but still a accomplishment
 

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buckaineer reminds me of sleepy groggy pathetic joe the worst president in our history
 
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