When you have a 245 LB kid who hasn;t been stopped all night you go for it on 4th and 1 at the 50........and you don't let 30 seconds go off the clock with less than 2 minutes to play and 2 timeouts in your pocket. That is NOT winning football, and I'm beginning to think that HCNB might be in over his head......that is all......now I'm headed to the Cascades again where the golf is good and the beer is cold