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$15 minimum wage hurting (not helping) restaurants, workers as more states prepare to hike...

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This is what happens when Big Government sticks its nose into the private sector. It'll only get worse if we elect the socialist left.

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A new year is fast approaching and 2020 could be a painful one for our nation's restaurants: 24 states and the District of Columbia will raise their minimum wages effective New Year’s Eve or New Year’s Day.

Labor unions and their allies are cheering the policy change, but the evidence shows unreasonable wage floors are no cause for celebration -- they are, in fact, destroying restaurant scenes in some of the best-known dining towns from coast to coast.

Raising the minimum wage is a classic case of good intentions gone awry.

Proponents offer a “free lunch” of higher pay to employees without any offsetting costs; in reality, the costs of a $15 minimum wage are real -- and they destroy businesses and jobs. Rather than give employees a raise, they leave them without a paycheck, period.

The Employment Policies Institute has documented dozens of examples from coast to coast at Faces of $15. The ongoing project shows the human toll of the Fight for $15, giving the victims of these reckless policies a voice in the hope that politicians, community leaders and the public will see the real outcome of these well-intentioned yet destructive laws.

The stories are heartbreaking. In New York City, Larry Georgeton, the former owner of the now-closed Del Rio Diner in Brooklyn, was frank: "The [$15] minimum wage, that’s what broke the camel’s back. It killed us.”

He explained that his working-class clientele could not shoulder the price hikes necessary to offset the minimum wage increase.

His customers aren’t the only ones. Across the country, small business owners in locales with high labor costs have found that price hikes are no panacea to offset a rising minimum wage.

Just this week in Sacramento, popular Greek restaurant Opa! Opa! announced it would close its doors after 14 years in business, citing the city's rapidly-rising minimum wage as the determining factor. More than a dozen employees will lose jobs right before Christmas. The owner explained that prices were up 53 percent since he opened his door, and all it did was reduce his customer counts.

In San Francisco, the city’s hostile business environment has small businesses “at a breaking point."

Golden Gate Restaurant Association member Laurie Thomas points to data from YELP that shows "restaurant closures [in the city] have begun to outpace openings by nine percent." One business owner was blunt: "Just opening or trying to adapt your business [in San Francisco] … it puts the Soviet Union to shame."

Even at restaurants that remain open, a hostile environment can force them to trim staff to stay afloat.

Seattle Subway franchisee Heidi Mann let four staffers go to keep the doors open at her business; she and her husband work long weeks to pick up the slack.

One New York-based franchisee of a casual dining chain reduced his staff count by 1,000 through attrition, using tabletop tablets to replace tasks once performed by an employee.

And more workplace automation is likely coming soon to a restaurant near you: A new study from economists at Miami and Trinity Universities finds that full-service restaurants staff nearly 20 percent fewer tipped workers (as a share of employment) in markets with high labor costs.

These damning data haven't kept proponents from misleading the public about the consequences of wage hikes and pushing to expand it. Every major 2020 Democratic contender for the U.S. presidency supports a $15 federal minimum wage.

San Francisco is squeezing its famous restaurant scene with this approach, and New York City is following suit: According to a survey from the New York City Hospitality Alliance, the city’s full-service restaurant employment has slowed to a crawl and it lost full-service restaurant jobs in 2018 for the first time in nearly two decades.

We know the outcome of raising the minimum wage: fewer restaurants and jobs. That's one recipe the American people could do without.
 
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No shit. Kind of like the incredibly stupid tariffs and trade wars.
 
I like how people are all up in arms over the self checkout lines at WalMarts, etc., Facebook feed gets blown up every so often with people bitching about them, "Ther takin' our jerbs...."

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This is what happens when Big Government sticks its nose into the private sector. It'll only get worse if we elect the socialist left.

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A new year is fast approaching and 2020 could be a painful one for our nation's restaurants: 24 states and the District of Columbia will raise their minimum wages effective New Year’s Eve or New Year’s Day.

Labor unions and their allies are cheering the policy change, but the evidence shows unreasonable wage floors are no cause for celebration -- they are, in fact, destroying restaurant scenes in some of the best-known dining towns from coast to coast.

Raising the minimum wage is a classic case of good intentions gone awry.

Proponents offer a “free lunch” of higher pay to employees without any offsetting costs; in reality, the costs of a $15 minimum wage are real -- and they destroy businesses and jobs. Rather than give employees a raise, they leave them without a paycheck, period.

The Employment Policies Institute has documented dozens of examples from coast to coast at Faces of $15. The ongoing project shows the human toll of the Fight for $15, giving the victims of these reckless policies a voice in the hope that politicians, community leaders and the public will see the real outcome of these well-intentioned yet destructive laws.

The stories are heartbreaking. In New York City, Larry Georgeton, the former owner of the now-closed Del Rio Diner in Brooklyn, was frank: "The [$15] minimum wage, that’s what broke the camel’s back. It killed us.”

He explained that his working-class clientele could not shoulder the price hikes necessary to offset the minimum wage increase.

His customers aren’t the only ones. Across the country, small business owners in locales with high labor costs have found that price hikes are no panacea to offset a rising minimum wage.

Just this week in Sacramento, popular Greek restaurant Opa! Opa! announced it would close its doors after 14 years in business, citing the city's rapidly-rising minimum wage as the determining factor. More than a dozen employees will lose jobs right before Christmas. The owner explained that prices were up 53 percent since he opened his door, and all it did was reduce his customer counts.

In San Francisco, the city’s hostile business environment has small businesses “at a breaking point."

Golden Gate Restaurant Association member Laurie Thomas points to data from YELP that shows "restaurant closures [in the city] have begun to outpace openings by nine percent." One business owner was blunt: "Just opening or trying to adapt your business [in San Francisco] … it puts the Soviet Union to shame."

Even at restaurants that remain open, a hostile environment can force them to trim staff to stay afloat.

Seattle Subway franchisee Heidi Mann let four staffers go to keep the doors open at her business; she and her husband work long weeks to pick up the slack.

One New York-based franchisee of a casual dining chain reduced his staff count by 1,000 through attrition, using tabletop tablets to replace tasks once performed by an employee.

And more workplace automation is likely coming soon to a restaurant near you: A new study from economists at Miami and Trinity Universities finds that full-service restaurants staff nearly 20 percent fewer tipped workers (as a share of employment) in markets with high labor costs.

These damning data haven't kept proponents from misleading the public about the consequences of wage hikes and pushing to expand it. Every major 2020 Democratic contender for the U.S. presidency supports a $15 federal minimum wage.

San Francisco is squeezing its famous restaurant scene with this approach, and New York City is following suit: According to a survey from the New York City Hospitality Alliance, the city’s full-service restaurant employment has slowed to a crawl and it lost full-service restaurant jobs in 2018 for the first time in nearly two decades.

We know the outcome of raising the minimum wage: fewer restaurants and jobs. That's one recipe the American people could do without.
my son the chef explained it well.......he has 7 part time folks making 10 and hour...if the raise goes to 15 then 3 of those folks are out of a job and the remaining 4 will damn well earn their raise because noone else is getting hired. Either that or you raise your prices so much to cover the raise that you go out of business and the noone is working.......but it's simple math..something the libs don't understand or care about
 
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Either that or you raise your prices so much to cover the raise that you go out of business and the noone is working.......but it's simple math..something the libs don't understand or care about
How is this a shred different from tariffs? Guess that's something the Trumpers don't understand or care about.
 
I like how people are all up in arms over the self checkout lines at WalMarts, etc., Facebook feed gets blown up every so often with people bitching about them, "Ther takin' our jerbs...."

agzhs.jpg

What is truly amazing is as Leftists demand a 15 dollar an hour minimum wage, the available labor pool isn't worth 5.00 an hour!

Compare your average Chick-Fil-A worker to the likes you may encounter at McDonald's or Burger King. Chick -Fil-A pays its workers a little more, many of them do make 15 dollars an hour.

You get fast, efficient service, a pleasant smile, your order repeated back to you accurately, a great product, rapidly filled orders, a receipt, outstanding customer service, and the place isn't even open on Sundays! Still, they drown their competition. During breakfast and lunch hours, a line wraps around each store!

While McDonald's and Burger King pay 15 dollars an hour to employees who are functionally illiterate, can't speak colloquial English, always get your order wrong, serve poor quality food, take forever to serve you, and have to be asked for napkins, straws, condiments, or a simple receipt of your damn near 20.00 transaction!

They don't even smile or say "Thank You" for your business!
 
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I mostly agree with you; however, IMO the staggering and growing wage disparities in the US needs to be addressed one way or another.

The 15 minimum wage is insanely stupid.
The staggering and growing wage disparities in the US needs to be addressed one way or another. (People need to search for other jobs)
 
The staggering and growing wage disparities in the US needs to be addressed one way or another. (People need to search for other jobs)

I don't disagree at all and argue that avenue repeatedly. But that won't address the growing wage disparity. If you want a country of oligarchs, see Russia.
 
The staggering and growing wage disparities in the US needs to be addressed one way or another. (People need to search for other jobs)

There are plenty of great paying jobs available, but too much of our workforce is too incompetent or in some cases too lazy to fill them.
 
How is this a shred different from tariffs? Guess that's something the Trumpers don't understand or care about.

Hey Coop, no one has to pay a tariff from China if they don't want to. They can buy from a different supplier (country) or we can make it here, or just don't buy from them. Minimum wage LAWS are unavoidable. As an employer, you go to jail if you don't pay workers at least what the LAW requires!

Taxes (tariffs) are 100% voluntary you are not required to pay tariffs on imported goods. Federal minimum wages are compulsory (unless you hire illegals)

But you're Conservative, you knew that already right? [eyeroll]
 
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It's exactly like it. Government interference driving up prices. Both are incredibly stupid. Sad you can't see that trough your hatred of America and love of Trump.

Are you still at this? No comparison between the two. If the SICLU (or whatever labor union it is) had nuclear weapons and was stealing trade secrets then you might have something.

I would love it if the Chow Ming (whatever his name is) would try and combat tariffs by comparing it to a $15 minimum wage...oh wait, his country basically uses slave labor...

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I hate the hike , as a traveler who tries to save every nickel of perdium I can for drinking & whores this stuff means I have to eat more beenie weenies..
 
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Are you still at this? No comparison between the two. If the SICLU (or whatever labor union it is) had nuclear weapons and was stealing trade secrets then you might have something.

I would love it if the Chow Ming (whatever his name is) would try and combat tariffs by comparing it to a $15 minimum wage...oh wait, his country basically uses slave labor...
Government interference is government interference. I'm glad you finally just admitted the real support you have for tariffs.....abject panty pissing fear. What sad cuck.

PS - We also have tariffs on goods from non scary countries.....even allies. Can you come out from behind your daddy and say how those are so much different from the $15 minimum wage, comrade?

butwhatifunoins had nukes? Sums up Trumpers on trade.
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Government interference is government interference. I'm glad you finally just admitted the real support you have for tariffs.....abject panty pissing fear. What sad cuck.

PS - We also have tariffs on goods from non scary countries.....even allies. Can you come out from behind your daddy and say how those are so much different from the $15 minimum wage, comrade?

butwhatifunoins had nukes? Sums up Trumpers on trade.
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Chef’s kiss indeed. You’ve already acknowledged you’ll be voting for whoever runs against him and whoever that is will be ushering in more of the same and worse. Now, tell me more about your moral superiority. Hahahahhaa
 
Chef’s kiss indeed. You’ve already acknowledged you’ll be voting for whoever runs against him and whoever that is will be ushering in more of the same and worse. Now, tell me more about your moral superiority. Hahahahhaa
I will. That is correct. That does not mean I will support their stupid ideas and suck their dicks. In fact I hope a thorough trashing of Trump will bring Republicans back to where they have been since RR.

Morally superior? WTF? Just intellectually honest and not a total cuck.

hahahahahhahhhhahahahahahahaha
 
That is how to describe tariffs and the trade war. I agree

So you will admit you'll cut your nose off to spite your face. You'll vote against someone who you feel is bad and vote for someone else who is much worse, according to your own standards.

Sounds kind of foolish, don't you think...Coop?
 
I will. That is correct. That does not mean I will support their stupid ideas and suck their dicks. In fact I hope a thorough trashing of Trump will bring Republicans back to where they have been since RR.

Morally superior? WTF? Just intellectually honest and not a total cuck.

hahahahahhahhhhahahahahahahaha
Voting for an increase in what you claim to despise. Makes complete sense.
 
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Voting for an increase in what you claim to despise. Makes complete sense.
Candidates are running on more tariffs and more trade wars? More corruption? More shitting on allies? More debt? I don't think so, but if the nominee runs on more of those things, I will vote for your God.

I realize things don't make sense to you.
 
More people had time to drink since they weren't working full time and needed to.
But more people had time to drink and needed to under Bush than they did Obama, but that didn't affect bourbon prices. Hmmmmm.
 
But more people had time to drink and needed to under Bush than they did Obama, but that didn't affect bourbon prices. Hmmmmm.
Wasn't the unemployment rate under bush really low until the housing crisis at the end of his Presidency? I remember the unemp rate here as being the lowest under Bush until trump. Not sure about the black and hispanic under bush but it's definitely lower under trump. Stock Market doing pretty good too. Maybe people can now afford to buy the good stuff instead of the MD 2020 under loose shoes Obama
 
Candidates are running on more tariffs and more trade wars? More corruption? More shitting on allies? More debt? I don't think so, but if the nominee runs on more of those things, I will vote for your God.

I realize things don't make sense to you.

Poor COOP....Don't listen to your fellow lefties. Stop creating conspiracies and reasons to explain your way out of not voting for Trump. You hate him. That's it. You don't have to have a reason. Your team lost the election and you're a sore loser. It's okay.

We know you're not voting for him, even if Hitler were resurrected and was announced as the left's nomination. We all understand. We also know, regardless of your endless complaints about Trump, warranted or vastly made-up, the true reason you hate him. It's what the left is. There's no hiding it.

Every reason you've come up with for hating Trump, the left is guilty of or even more so. Face it. You're a team player.

Follow your leaders like a good little lamb and don't worry about President Trump.

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Government interference is government interference. I'm glad you finally just admitted the real support you have for tariffs.....abject panty pissing fear. What sad cuck.

PS - We also have tariffs on goods from non scary countries.....even allies. Can you come out from behind your daddy and say how those are so much different from the $15 minimum wage, comrade?

butwhatifunoins had nukes? Sums up Trumpers on trade.
chefs-kiss-emoji-header-FT-BLOG1018.jpg

You suck at defending your stance on tariffs. The $15 min. wage has nothing to do with tariffs...but you tried to go there. I know you can do better.
 
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Candidates are running on more tariffs and more trade wars? More corruption? More shitting on allies? More debt? I don't think so, but if the nominee runs on more of those things, I will vote for your God.

I realize things don't make sense to you.

The real question is do you make any sense to yourself? Which voice was commanding you today? Are you Hedwig or Patricia today?
 
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I will. That is correct. That does not mean I will support their stupid ideas and suck their dicks. In fact I hope a thorough trashing of Trump will bring Republicans back to where they have been since RR.

Morally superior? WTF? Just intellectually honest and not a total cuck.

hahahahahhahhhhahahahahahahaha
Foul mouth, ............ Angry, ........... Wind Bag
 
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